Second opinions

[essexandy]

it must be concrete blocks would never reach the u values

I think he means the internal supporting walls, just like in the house I'm on at the moment Malc.

 

[smudge505]

essexandy if you took more care on the bg website you'd see the caviot in the selector guide saying "not on smooth or low suction blocks" in that case, and this is where I have generally come across 2 coat work on dense concrete blocks (paint grade), so the spec I use is Bondit and bonding coat.

 

[spunky]

When are low suction concrete blocks used in houses? There 99 percent medium density or aircrete

 

[smudge505]

never come across it in housing but have in a couple of school projects, and two hospital refurbs i've done

 

[spunky]

What would you use over the medium density and aircrete smudge

 

[nickelarse]

essexandy if you took more care on the bg website you'd see the caviot in the selector guide saying "not on smooth or low suction blocks" in that case, and this is where I have generally come across 2 coat work on dense concrete blocks (paint grade), so the spec I use is Bondit and bonding coat.

if you paid more attention you know it all bellend you would have seen that it actually says not on smooth low suction blocks. there is no or in the sentence. hardwall is fine on standard concrete blocks.

 

[essexandy]

if you paid more attention you know it all bellend you would have seen that it actually says not on smooth low suction blocks. there is no or in the sentence. hardwall is fine on standard concrete blocks.

Thank you Nick.
We really do need more tossers like this on the forum.

 

[essexandy]

essexandy if you took more care on the bg website you'd see the caviot in the selector guide saying "not on smooth or low suction blocks" in that case, and this is where I have generally come across 2 coat work on dense concrete blocks (paint grade), so the spec I use is Bondit and bonding coat.

If you're for real then you really are a thick gormless ****. Apart from that you're fine.

 

[nickelarse]

your welcome!!

surely danny can arrange some sort of basic iq test before signing up or something??

 

[nickelarse]

Cause bonding is designed for low suction backgrounds i.e concrete blocks, hardwall is designed for high suction backgrounds like lightweight blocks etc, if you have used hardwall on concrete blocks before and it has worked then lucky you and prehaps 8 out 10 jobs you may get away with it, but when it falls off and you try to complain think you may find bg throwing the whitebook back at you. I suggest some of you do some homework and try reading bg/knauf/tarmac lit and educate yourselves in the materials you use!! people who don't know their stuff give us knowledgeable spreads a bad name

:RpS_thumbsup:

 

[DannyMac]

:RpS_lol: How many metres of concrete blocks would you say you've applied bond it followed by bonding to Smudge?

Talk about making life hard for yourself. :RpS_blink:

 

[kebab king]

And fukin expensive and time consuming.

 

[smudge505]

Not when its been spec'ed by the architect, the last job i did was a refurb of some sports centre and corridors were unpainted smooth, dense concrete blocks, the architect didn't want to dryline them beacue he wanted good impact resistence due to high traffic, so wanted a 2 coat spec, was about 400m2 altogther (for dans info)., and if people are having to double check my mis quotes, jesus some of you need to get a life yourselves, thought the point of a forum was to air your views. Essexandy was quick to try to correct me when i said you should be using bonding on dense block, but as i have previously mention IN MY EXPERIENCE in the work I have done when I have come across this type of background, had I used Hardwall I would have had some very very expensive callbacks!!! bunch of self righteous *****

 

[Fatarm]

Lmfao ,smug

 

[nickelarse]

Not when its been spec'ed by the architect, the last job i did was a refurb of some sports centre and corridors were unpainted smooth, dense concrete blocks, the architect didn't want to dryline them beacue he wanted good impact resistence due to high traffic, so wanted a 2 coat spec, was about 400m2 altogther (for dans info)., and if people are having to double check my mis quotes, jesus some of you need to get a life yourselves, thought the point of a forum was to air your views. Essexandy was quick to try to correct me when i said you should be using bonding on dense block, but as i have previously mention IN MY EXPERIENCE in the work I have done when I have come across this type of background, had I used Hardwall I would have had some very very expensive callbacks!!! bunch of self righteous *****

ha you really are a wally .

were not self rightous, were just right. just admit your wrong and all will be forgiven.

 

[DannyMac]

He's just annoyed at all the extra work he's done and expense. :RpS_laugh:

 

[nickelarse]

i bet hes always busy tho!

 

[smudge505]

might be expensive and time consuming but I price the job right, and I make plenty of cash, and the bonus of it is the architect recommends my company to all his clients and other architect practicies so yeah as a company we are pretty busy thanks nicklearse/Dannymac, if your short of work give me a bell could always use a couple of good labs :RpS_thumbup::rolleyes)

 

[DannyMac]

Awwww thanks, that's really thoughtful. Busy for the next few months but maybe after Christmas. I'll bring my inch brush for the bond it.
I would want to fit right in and do everything the hard way. :RpS_lol:

 

[nickelarse]

might be expensive and time consuming but I price the job right, and I make plenty of cash, and the bonus of it is the architect recommends my company to all his clients and other architect practicies so yeah as a company we are pretty busy thanks nicklearse/Dannymac, if your short of work give me a bell could always use a couple of good labs :RpS_thumbup::rolleyes)

would we be able to suck your balls too and tell you what a hero you are? slowly, of course....

 

[spunky]

Come to think of it I don't think ive ever seen a low suction concrete block in my life?

 

[malc]

Come to think of it I don't think ive ever seen a low suction concrete block in my life?

i have seen concrete pots used on farm buildings, pig pens etc. but never on anything else

 

[DannyMac]

Commons?

 

[spunky]

Lintels ?

 

[DannyMac]

Staircases?

 

[spunky]

Only insitu

 

[DannyMac]

Come to think of it I don't think ive ever seen a low suction concrete block in my life?

They're all low suction, most have plenty of key for hardwall though

 

[spunky]

Really we use to hose them down in the middle of summer before scratch coating

 

[essexandy]

Really we use to hose them down in the middle of summer before scratch coating

You sure they were actually a concrete block mate as I've always found them to be low/zero suction as well.

 

[spunky]

Feck knows I thought all blocks were concrete just different densitys?

 

[bubbles65]

These are what we tend to be working on 90% of the time:


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[DannyMac]

Really we use to hose them down in the middle of summer before scratch coating

I don't doubt it, you're all nuts down Bristol way aren't you.

 

[essexandy]

Feck knows I thought all blocks were concrete just different densitys?

Yeah you're right of course mate but everyone I speak to refers to the Celcon type blocks as either just Celcons or thermos and any really dense heavy blocks as concrete.
The place we're on at the moment the load bearing walls are similar to those shown by Bubs but you can actually see small stones in the block mixture. And there's not a jot of suction off them.

 

[spread1970]

in my experiance bonding will stick to class.remember a job in did in a school refurb for a plastering contractor,we had feckin meters of old tiled walls to sort(thick things,think they were green).
builder gotus to pva the tiles,float with bonding then set as normal.
my cousin works at that school and the plasters still on 15yrs later!