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zolco said:
If Cameron could've get a better deal the rest of the eu would be in the queue to get a better one.
In reality the uk and 1 another eu country has better immigration deals than the rest, the uk meant to house 20000 refugees in a 5 year period, that's nothing compared to the Germans who took a million already on a good will without a faff.
Reality is in the lately joined eu countries everything costs the same like here, services, food, cars, only wages and property prices are much lower so it's tempting for people to move over here when you can earn a months wage here in a day compared to the homeland


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Why do you think the Germans have taken so many in? In 1939-1945 they killed over 6 million innocent people and for me I think it smacks of redemption,and what happened when they opened the doors they couldn't cope could they they was repaid by some attacking their women and smashing up the places they got given to live, I know it's a tiny minority but the Middle East countries live in a draconian way where women are treated as second class citizens
 
gps said:
And funny enough the Germans are furious about it, merkel is also finished she was lucky last time
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Yes they not happy I agree with that, still they put it into legislation how and what the refugees needs to adhere to if they want to stay
As far as I know Britain only took somewhat a thousand refugees so far

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Pagey said:
really you sure?lol some of us do educate ourselves as well you know maybe your just stubborn and won't back down its a good trait to have but I do believe at times you should be more considerate and not only think it's flynny way or the wrong way, gutted really cos you do actually know plastering
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I can see where your coming from and I'm aware of how I am but I don't really argue, I feel people argue with me, I just ask questions they either don't know or won't answer. :)
 
flynnyman said:
I can see where your coming from and I'm aware of how I am but I don't really argue, I feel people argue with me, I just ask questions they either don't know or won't answer. :)
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There it is " I just ask questions "

Never answer
 
Pagey said:
Why do you think the Germans have taken so many in? In 1939-1945 they killed over 6 million innocent people and for me I think it smacks of redemption,and what happened when they opened the doors they couldn't cope could they they was repaid by some attacking their women and smashing up the places they got given to live, I know it's a tiny minority but the Middle East countries live in a draconian way where women are treated as second class citizens
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Yes they did slaughter 6million people I don't deny that still they open to newcomers whatever happened afterwards and Hence they have to integrate into the community and take on European values not just living with a goat in the living room


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flynnyman said:
I can see where your coming from and I'm aware of how I am but I don't really argue, I feel people argue with me, I just ask questions they either don't know or won't answer. :)
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As your aware I also get set upon at times and do stand my ground if I think I'm right and I've listed loads of benefits by being out throughout this thread
 
zolco said:
Yes they did slaughter 6million people I don't deny that still they open to newcomers whatever happened afterwards and Hence they have to integrate into the community and take on European values not just living with a goat in the living room


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You mean like Muslims adapting to European values ?
 
zolco said:
Yes they did slaughter 6million people I don't deny that still they open to newcomers whatever happened afterwards and Hence they have to integrate into the community and take on European values not just living with a goat in the living room


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I'm all for helping people in danger or them who wanna better themselves but you gotta adapt and take our kindness well
 
gps said:
Some and I include you do not like the truth that's a fact
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Even if that's true, do you think it's different in the uk? Look around in the city all the big firms present and I can't see you walking up to their door and set it alight just to get rid of them.

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Brilliant thread and debate glad to see peeps really thinking about this and all of what is taking place just now a time like no other be the outcome good or bad a light has been finally shone !! How many choose to look at it and what's been happening beneath there noses and to what degree is yet to be seen.
 
zolco said:
Well that's the idea, but you know that from your own country it's never gonna happen

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So are you saying then the Germans will eventually kick all the immigrants out again or worse??? As they will not change
 
gps said:
So are you saying then the Germans will eventually kick all the immigrants out again or worse??? As they will not change
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As much as I know they have to learn the lingo, keep down a job for 3-4years then they will be free to move about in Germany if they can't keep their side of the deal they have to go
They got the Turks there for donkeys years and they seemed to getting along alright

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zolco said:
As much as I know they have to learn the lingo, keep down a job for 3-4years then they will be free to move about in Germany if they can't keep their side of the deal they have to go
They got the Turks there for donkeys years and they seemed to getting along alright

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Presumably though under eu law they will not be allowed to kick out though ? Which brings us back to one reason for wanting out
 
gps said:
No you didn't
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I thought I asked you what you had won but you didn't answer apart from FREEDOM which can mean many things, had you asked me a question in this thread previous to mine? If you dis I don't remember it's that simple and what was it?
 
flynnyman said:
I thought I asked you what you had won but you didn't answer apart from FREEDOM which can mean many things, had you asked me a question in this thread previous to mine? If you dis I don't remember it's that simple and what was it?
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Then I expanded by saying freedom from the unelected unaccountable eu if you remember.

So your answer to the question, why are you @flynnyman happy to see our money go to the unaccountable eu ? Discuss
 
I do feel a lot of this thread has been me and @gps vs a lot of the others today many are just to polite to say something but you cannot get a genuine point across to a lefty
 
One day Cameron decided to get an approval vote for his governing, after all the critics he thought he did actually good and the bigger the ego is the bigger the agenda is, so let's call a referendum on the eu, after all is being ruling uk for more than 40 years. We all know he was against the eu, but something persuade him to lead the stay campaign . It's still mystery what actually made him turn around.the rest is history - the stupidest political suicide in the history.
On the other side we have Boris. Did you know that he has written two speeches - one for the leave and one for the stay campaign and he liked more the one for staying in. It was more powerful and convincing , but after Cameron chose the remain and in order just for the sake to be in the game, he chose the leave. Political move to bring him more dividends after the major period. We all saw how weak his speech was- get back control, get back control again and again. He actually meant to put him back in control and people fall for it. He won, but what?He didn't believe this will happen and made a full of him self. Definitely wiped off all this years he put in london as a major, known as the golden years. Just shows how easy is for politician to flip . No matter how hard they are trying to deny it , but racism was part of their campaign and the people pick that up withouth problem and they didn't need much convincing . I don't understand why people have problem with skin colour and nationality? You are what you are , what you made your self and we have to finally accept it and leave with it. But no, politicians have to keep it alive one or another way. No winners or looser between us and the politicians,but there is one winner and always will be on the top - the union between the banks and the corporations. And here Pagey I have to say it's a bit naive to say we will get rid of them.
 
Rid of who? Immigration won't stop I accept that but it's better to be under control than how it is at the minute
 
Pagey said:
Why do you think the Germans have taken so many in? In 1939-1945 they killed over 6 million innocent people and for me I think it smacks of redemption,and what happened when they opened the doors they couldn't cope could they they was repaid by some attacking their women and smashing up the places they got given to live, I know it's a tiny minority but the Middle East countries live in a draconian way where women are treated as second class citizens
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Wrong! They took on so many I immigrants based on pure facts-the population is getting older and in 50 years time there won't be anyone to work and support the system.
 
Limiting numbers on who can come to live and work here I would prefer a dr from India who could open up a chest take a heart out and replace it to keep someone alive than someone with no skill set
 
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