Sweden looks nice...I'm off

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I can see your being diplomatic mate I just speak from my heart and what I see and read and study I really do believe if we could of got a better deal we wouldn't be where we are but the silent majority have spoken
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More pragmatic than diplomatic , I would say. I like the way you putting it on here, shows a personality above the average brexit iq:D, just trying to brake the ice you know,and speaking from your heart is the best we can do and is the key to further misunderstanding and misinterpretation. I think before the uk government took a sch a big step and gamble, the matter should of been on the table for discussion and the public to have a better view. I think if this would of happened and the public gave the government and eu enough indications that leaving the eu is very likely, changes would of been made and promises kept.Take your local butcher , he would of had a better approach and avoid the mess we are at the moment.I like that brits are ready to take on their own future and destiny, but can they deliver? We have seen it many times going down the toilet and blaming on everyone else , just to make our life easier. And I have to say I really don't think immigration and religion can be blamed for. The laws are there, why not put in use? Oh, it will loose some potential votes, which brings us back to square one- the people we chose to rule us and their disgusting behaviour . Look at them at the moment- political suicide, but it will take some time to realise what actually they have done and so we . Do you think the saying every country gets the government it deserves is true?
 
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Plus Australia and New Zealand are falling over themselves trying to get a deal in place first #projectfear pmsl
 
Champagne socialist hahahahh you need the wake up call really the society you want to live in is never going to happen funny how a socialist can preach democracy yet you lot are showing your true colours and stamping your feet you was so sure we would stay but the majority have spoken so deal with it and embrace change
 
Pagey for prime minister!!!!!

Go on son keep firing them bullets back!!!

Britain just needs to have more faith in itself and use its initiative and carry on being brave!!!

History will shown this as a great turning point providing we can all unite!!!

Oh and could really do with someone running that foooookin sturgeon cranky over and then reversing back over just for good measure!!!

She's foookin poison to the UK here,!!!
 
Failing currency failing economy failing leadership (dictatorship) if I had no money and had 3 kids but you had a fiver also with 3 kids I'm sure you would try feed your kids before you fed mine it's the most basic principle I can come up with to make you understand, Portugal Greece and Spain mass unemployment amongst the youth all in trouble,what about the airport we built that can't even be used, I'm sure while them unelected leaders of the eu are scoffing on fois gra they are really deep down thinking of us people who they are meant to serve, the socialist attitude is all wrong people live in poverty yet your happy for these leaders to Lord it up with 5 course meals while they plot a coup of making Europe their own I'm glad I will be able to say I was here on day Europe changed, once turkey joins eu the trouble will really begin, they will have to let loads of failing countries to join to try make up the loss of our money good luck with that
 
Ftse 100 had it's strongest week since 2011 the out vote is crippling the economy for sure we are all doomed lol #projectfear
 
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And you needed an old lady to tell you that ? Why do you think those in the eu hate us so much, I'll tell you jealousy
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Just thought it was worth a share with everyone, she been around for a while and actually voted in but she said the rest of the world think we are crazy voting out but they were envious of such a country were the people decide not the mp s she also had a chat about the parties in turmoil as you lot had and said maybe we don't need them lol
 
I've been Poland to visit auschwitz and I'm telling you now Poland isn't a pretty place I found the people rude I got ripped off by a taxi and just getting by was hard work, I've got polish friends and they reckon Kraków is like that anyway but my point is I could live in England I couldn't live in Poland,Pete we are the envy of the world and that's why people line up to come here and people should be proud that we have a nation that people want to be part of but it has to be managed well and be under control
 
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I've been Poland to visit auschwitz and I'm telling you now Poland isn't a pretty place I found the people rude I got ripped off by a taxi and just getting by was hard work, I've got polish friends and they reckon Kraków is like that anyway but my point is I could live in England I couldn't live in Poland,Pete we are the envy of the world and that's why people line up to come here and people should be proud that we have a nation that people want to be part of but it has to be managed well and be under control
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It's like that everywhere you going in the Eastern block. They see you as tourist with a fat wallet. Like in Hungary 60-70% of freshly finished graduates want to leave the country for a minimum term of 2-4 years. I can earn a price of a house with an acre here in a week if I'd buy in a crappy village back home. Course it's tempting

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zolco said:
It's like that everywhere you going in the Eastern block. They see you as tourist with a fat wallet. Like in Hungary 60-70% of freshly finished graduates want to leave the country for a minimum term of 2-4 years. I can earn a price of a house with an acre here in a week if I'd buy in a crappy village back home. Course it's tempting

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I got my heart seton going Croatia at some point as it looks good and I hear good things about Bulgaria from friends who have been in Poland I didn't feel welcome there not one bit I went to see something I had always wanted to see, I think the people who run it have almost commercialised it which I think is bad I wanted to pay my respects and understand the life's that were lost were not for nothing but as you go through its almost like come on come on and you can't take nothing in which was a shame but at least I actually got there
 
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I got my heart seton going Croatia at some point as it looks good and I hear good things about Bulgaria from friends who have been in Poland I didn't feel welcome there not one bit I went to see something I had always wanted to see, I think the people who run it have almost commercialised it which I think is bad I wanted to pay my respects and understand the life's that were lost were not for nothing but as you go through its almost like come on come on and you can't take nothing in which was a shame but at least I actually got there
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Croatia is lovely my brother takes his family there every year it's only 6-7 hours drive for him. Few of my mates been to Bulgaria Sunny beach it's dirt cheap and nice, so as a few goes there skiing every year for same reason.
I never been to Auschwitz, seen it enough times in the history books

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Pagey said:
I got my heart seton going Croatia at some point as it looks good and I hear good things about Bulgaria from friends who have been in Poland I didn't feel welcome there not one bit I went to see something I had always wanted to see, I think the people who run it have almost commercialised it which I think is bad I wanted to pay my respects and understand the life's that were lost were not for nothing but as you go through its almost like come on come on and you can't take nothing in which was a shame but at least I actually got there
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I had the complete opposite experience. Felt it was very respectful and non commercialised. British went there recently and stole items. They are being severely punished and rightly so. I also came back from Tokyo where everyone is polite and welcoming. No litter etc. Kids on the tube well dressed and well behaved. Got into Heathrow saw a chav spitting on the floor and was embarrassed. Graffiti everywhere and reality tv society. Shameful.
 
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I had the complete opposite experience. Felt it was very respectful and non commercialised. British went there recently and stole items. They are being severely punished and rightly so. I also came back from Tokyo where everyone is polite and welcoming. No litter etc. Kids on the tube well dressed and well behaved. Got into Heathrow saw a chav spitting on the floor and was embarrassed. Graffiti everywhere and reality tv society. Shameful.
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When I was in Singapore it was the cleanest place I have ever been to the trains were on time and were spotless and people couldn't do enough to help you, felt in Thailand the same I'm a big fan of south east Asia the way the wealthy live right next to the poor but what got me was the poorer people were happier than the rich people,they know in society where they stand and don't complain, Poland was a big let down for me I had high hopes but felt it was a rude place with grey building grey people and felt really on edge, but I guess some could say that about London
 
zolco said:
Croatia is lovely my brother takes his family there every year it's only 6-7 hours drive for him. Few of my mates been to Bulgaria Sunny beach it's dirt cheap and nice, so as a few goes there skiing every year for same reason.
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But to actually see it and learn from it isn't something I would not of got round to doing shame it turned out the way it did, zolco if your from Hungary what are your thoughts on all this immigration as you have a hardline pm who closed the boarder quickly when immigrants kept on coming through I thought some of stuff he said actually made sense not all but things like we can't cope with the influx measure ain't in place
 
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Failing currency failing economy failing leadership (dictatorship) if I had no money and had 3 kids but you had a fiver also with 3 kids I'm sure you would try feed your kids before you fed mine it's the most basic principle I can come up with to make you understand, Portugal Greece and Spain mass unemployment amongst the youth all in trouble,what about the airport we built that can't even be used, I'm sure while them unelected leaders of the eu are scoffing on fois gra they are really deep down thinking of us people who they are meant to serve, the socialist attitude is all wrong people live in poverty yet your happy for these leaders to Lord it up with 5 course meals while they plot a coup of making Europe their own I'm glad I will be able to say I was here on day Europe changed, once turkey joins eu the trouble will really begin, they will have to let loads of failing countries to join to try make up the loss of our money good luck with that
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I wouldn't sit by and watch someone else's kids starve I would share it with them but that's me :) by the sounds of it your happy to Lord it lol this debate is going no where you are using sound bites it's sad xx
 
flynnyman said:
I wouldn't sit by and watch someone else's kids starve I would share it with them but that's me :) by the sounds of it your happy to Lord it lol this debate is going no where you are using sound bites it's sad xx
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No what I'm happy with is having our own house in order what about the people here being treated well first then if we have any spare we can then help others out I can't see where u can find a problem in that? Also as we have all rattled off why we better off out how come you lefties can't rattle out why we better off in
 
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But to actually see it and learn from it isn't something I would not of got round to doing shame it turned out the way it did, zolco if your from Hungary what are your thoughts on all this immigration as you have a hardline pm who closed the boarder quickly when immigrants kept on coming through I thought some of stuff he said actually made sense not all but things like we can't cope with the influx measure ain't in place
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Our pm is a gypsy boy, he's Oxford educated, he's a bit right wing but not massively. They are in power the past 2 elections and they just blinding the people at home with lies and scaremongering. They shut the borders because he's been told to do so by the eu I reckon, he was going on about it to the public that these refugees will take their jobs and blabla but in reality nobody wants to stay in Hungary as it's crap to have an everyday life there.
I never been against immigration even when I was living back at home 20 odd years ago Romanians were coming to Hungary to work as they were piss poor but there was no hatred, although we hate each other because of our shared history and Hungary's lost Transylvania to them in the 1st world war then again in the second, but still no agro in every day life.
My only problem is religion, as most migrants are muslim or similar and they never or very rarely will integrate into the existing community and taking on European values and that's when problems comes along.
Till 100-150years there was no passports so there was free to all, that's changed now, so as living standards so that's encouraging people to migrate, and it does put a pressure on the homies I guess, but I can't fault anyone trying to better their own or their families lives with migration.
What I see is that they can't even treat situations here with existing muslim communities so if there's an influx of the newcomers that would be a big problem and in this course people like using the racist card hence the law looks dented sometimes.
Saying that, uk had its own deal to house 20k refugees over 4 years period so that's not that bad.
I mean you pay 20%tax here come on, that's like tax heaven for most of us.
I see both sides, all my in-laws voted out, nearly me Mrs too, I'm not bothered, ain't my fight. Was it a good decision or not it's not for me to say really, but the uk got mass immigration every year from eu and commonwealth countries, housing definitely driving the economy forward I doubt anything will massively slow down because of brexit but there will be a few hiccups.
As long as the migrants working and not claiming and being part of the community i have no trouble with them, but it's just doesn't seem to work

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But you haven't rattled off anything apart from pipe dreams, it's basic human instincts to help someone else, when you feel the need to look after number one you will end up being number two. You haven't said yet who is going to get looked after? Do you think they are going to line people up and share something out? You keep talking about the past and now things have changed you don't mention the future and how your dream will work.
 
zolco said:
Our pm is a gypsy boy, he's Oxford educated, he's a bit right wing but not massively. They are in power the past 2 elections and they just blinding the people at home with lies and scaremongering. They shut the borders because he's been told to do so by the eu I reckon, he was going on about it to the public that these refugees will take their jobs and blabla but in reality nobody wants to stay in Hungary as it's crap to have an everyday life there.
I never been against immigration even when I was living back at home 20 odd years ago Romanians were coming to Hungary to work as they were piss poor but there was no hatred, although we hate each other because of our shared history and Hungary's lost Transylvania to them in the 1st world war then again in the second, but still no agro in every day life.
My only problem is religion, as most migrants are muslim or similar and they never or very rarely will integrate into the existing community and taking on European values and that's when problems comes along.
Till 100-150years there was no passports so there was free to all, that's changed now, so as living standards so that's encouraging people to migrate, and it does put a pressure on the homies I guess, but I can't fault anyone trying to better their own or their families lives with migration.
What I see is that they can't even treat situations here with existing muslim communities so if there's an influx of the newcomers that would be a big problem and in this course people like using the racist card hence the law looks dented sometimes.
Saying that, uk had its own deal to house 20k refugees over 4 years period so that's not that bad.
I mean you pay 20%tax here come on, that's like tax heaven for most of us.
I see both sides, all my in-laws voted out, nearly me Mrs too, I'm not bothered, ain't my fight. Was it a good decision or not it's not for me to say really, but the uk got mass immigration every year from eu and commonwealth countries, housing definitely driving the economy forward I doubt anything will massively slow down because of brexit but there will be a few hiccups.
As long as the migrants working and not claiming and being part of the community i have no trouble with them, but it's just doesn't seem to work

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This country was built by immigrants and they are keeping the nhs propped up but to name one industry, as an immigrant I feel over night I am not part of the we when in fact I am. People will say "yeh but I don't mean you" but it does mean me.
 
flynnyman said:
This country was built by immigrants and they are keeping the nhs propped up but to name one industry, as an immigrant I feel over night I am not part of the we when in fact I am. People will say "yeh but I don't mean you" but it does mean me.
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Damn right it means you lol
 
How can you have a free for all with no control over it? I don't understand that logic, how is it a pipe dream to get say we have got away from the eu the majority have spoken so it's up to you to deal with it
 
zolco said:
Our pm is a gypsy boy, he's Oxford educated, he's a bit right wing but not massively. They are in power the past 2 elections and they just blinding the people at home with lies and scaremongering. They shut the borders because he's been told to do so by the eu I reckon, he was going on about it to the public that these refugees will take their jobs and blabla but in reality nobody wants to stay in Hungary as it's crap to have an everyday life there.
I never been against immigration even when I was living back at home 20 odd years ago Romanians were coming to Hungary to work as they were piss poor but there was no hatred, although we hate each other because of our shared history and Hungary's lost Transylvania to them in the 1st world war then again in the second, but still no agro in every day life.
My only problem is religion, as most migrants are muslim or similar and they never or very rarely will integrate into the existing community and taking on European values and that's when problems comes along.
Till 100-150years there was no passports so there was free to all, that's changed now, so as living standards so that's encouraging people to migrate, and it does put a pressure on the homies I guess, but I can't fault anyone trying to better their own or their families lives with migration.
What I see is that they can't even treat situations here with existing muslim communities so if there's an influx of the newcomers that would be a big problem and in this course people like using the racist card hence the law looks dented sometimes.
Saying that, uk had its own deal to house 20k refugees over 4 years period so that's not that bad.
I mean you pay 20%tax here come on, that's like tax heaven for most of us.
I see both sides, all my in-laws voted out, nearly me Mrs too, I'm not bothered, ain't my fight. Was it a good decision or not it's not for me to say really, but the uk got mass immigration every year from eu and commonwealth countries, housing definitely driving the economy forward I doubt anything will massively slow down because of brexit but there will be a few hiccups.
As long as the migrants working and not claiming and being part of the community i have no trouble with them, but it's just doesn't seem to work

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A good summary mate and non bias
 
flynnyman said:
This country was built by immigrants and they are keeping the nhs propped up but to name one industry, as an immigrant I feel over night I am not part of the we when in fact I am. People will say "yeh but I don't mean you" but it does mean me.
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I agree with that flynny I hear the very same, but you know what I'll still be here in 20 years time it's not making much of a difference in my life maybe for my kid, but with the eea the eu migrants will still come no questions asked. Refugees will camp in Dover instead of Calais, so not sure how Britain will be controlling the borders more, London is the financial district of Europe they would've moved it decades ago if they wanted to to another country.
Many Hungarian doctors doing weekend shifts here, and many made the move permanent so as nurses. Builders wise, we prefer Germany, but Germany is so saturated in the past 10 years it's hard to get by

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Pagey said:
A good summary mate and non bias
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I'm only a guest here mate not the lord of the manor, so it would be unfair to judge anyone's decision, although I don't like it how the government treats the situation, in my book they should start the leaving process to bring stability to peoples and companies life, uncertainty is a b*****d, hence I would've voted stay, fear of the unknown is not for me, too old for that lol

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That zolco smacks of you actually believing the remains scare tactics the whole immigrants thing when escaping from war is to go to the first safe country, they have to travel through around 20 countries to get to the uk, I feel that it's the economic migrant that is the real issue here as they are only seeking a better life not escaping persecution don't you think we should help the genuine from the cons? But how do we police it? Once people know this isn't a dream island it will start to slow down we need to get a grip on it
 
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I'm only a guest here mate not the lord of the manor, so it would be unfair to judge anyone's decision, although I don't like it how the government treats the situation, in my book they should start the leaving process to bring stability to peoples and companies life, uncertainty is a b*****d, hence I would've voted stay, fear of the unknown is not for me, too old for that lol

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There is no fear we can control our destiny now can't we we are our own rulers now so let's make Great Britain great the whole eu will crumble you can hear the noises all over Europe it's a failing POLITICAL UNION
 
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How can you have a free for all with no control over it? I don't understand that logic, how is it a pipe dream to get say we have got away from the eu the majority have spoken so it's up to you to deal with it
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what do you mean free for all? You are on the same planet you haven't got away from anyone and again who is WE in sick of hearing WE who the duck are you on about? I'm getting bored of asking but every time it's said I can't help myself, I don't even think you realise your saying it coz you still haven't said who WE is?
 
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That zolco smacks of you actually believing the remains scare tactics the whole immigrants thing when escaping from war is to go to the first safe country, they have to travel through around 20 countries to get to the uk, I feel that it's the economic migrant that is the real issue here as they are only seeking a better life not escaping persecution don't you think we should help the genuine from the cons? But how do we police it? Once people know this isn't a dream island it will start to slow down we need to get a grip on it
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And when it isn't a dream island you will be one of the first to moan?
 
Pagey said:
There is no fear we can control our destiny now can't we we are our own rulers now so let's make Great Britain great the whole eu will crumble you can hear the noises all over Europe it's a failing POLITICAL UNION
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Who is WE you keep saying it.
 
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