Trump proved right yet again

flynnyman said:
So if you target muslims in this country, a lot who were born here, are you not starting the whole thing over again?
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It already started flynny! These so called terrorist are part of the community and supported by the community. This is going on and the first one to pop out are the mentality weakest! They are not following the plan and want all the glory for themselves! So, how will all this good muslims react if you only point the finger at them? Well, normal human being will not be worried at all, but for sure they are thinking they know what we are doing and then go ballistic. I don't really understand what point you are trying to make when even you know that all this is true ! Just to follow the law and the rules?
 
johniosaif said:
The right wing have no blame attached then,the EDL ,Britain first supporters , the nutters who applauded the killing of an British MP,the brave heros who throw bacon at mosques ,those who attack women wearing hijab. This country has its problems ,one of them is the rise of the right wing nutters , you say ,you're doing something. You're taking back control ,you're forcing politicians to listen , you're doing nothing only making people want to join ISIS , if you corner people for long enough ,they will fight back, you make so much noise and are so vitriolic ,so poisonous that people won't comment ,bit like the loud lunatic in the pub , I never let the loony win in my time ,I won't now ,
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You dont think its us that are getting backed into a corner then?
 
vfr12 said:
It already started flynny! These so called terrorist are part of the community and supported by the community. This is going on and the first one to pop out are the mentality weakest! They are not following the plan and want all the glory for themselves! So, how will all this good muslims react if you only point the finger at them? Well, normal human being will not be worried at all, but for sure they are thinking they know what we are doing and then go ballistic. I don't really understand what point you are trying to make when even you know that all this is true ! Just to follow the law and the rules?
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Silly logic , making every Muslim feel like they're been watched and monitored and second class isn't going to help
 
CeeVee said:
You dont think its us that are getting backed into a corner then?
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There is that view also , none of us like the bombs,the suicide drivers ,the lunatics ,it's not nice getting blamed for it as well , now if that old couple who were looking after those two alleged bombers ,what would you say , you'd say that they are all in it together ,
 
johniosaif said:
Silly logic , making every Muslim feel like they're been watched and monitored and second class isn't going to help
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I will disagree, of course! My point is if you can't make the " community "understand there will be consequences , you are not moving forward! Just bla bla and bla bla again!
 
johniosaif said:
I will wear mine with pride ,I've earned it as much as you've earned yours, I don't take any of it to heart nor should you , I prefer honest dialogue
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Spot on sir :coffe:
Honest dialogue is important i just wish the media and government gave a more balanced view on the more sensible voices of the left and right without extreme speach, just open honest ideas that could make this country a better place for all that should be here !

But i think its important to shut the borders to any more countries and people that we know will add fuel to the fire thats burning under islamic banners here now. So we have breathing space to get rid of the many undesirables already here ! Then we can operate controlled immigration for those who are safe to let in and will be a good addition to this country ?
Seems the most sensible option / start to reversing the mess gov have made of things here !
 
Smudger1 said:
Spot on sir :coffe:
Honest dialogue is important i just wish the media and government gave a more balanced view on the more sensible voices of the left and right without extreme speach, just open honest ideas that could make this country a better place for all that should be here !

But i think its important to shut the borders to any more countries and people that we know will add fuel to the fire thats burning under islamic banners here now. So we have breathing space to get rid of the many undesirables already here ! Then we can operate controlled immigration for those who are safe to let in and will be a good addition to this country ?
Seems the most sensible option / start to reversing the mess gov have made of things here !
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Trust me ,people are smuggled in here every day,some have evil intentions some just want to live
 
vfr12 said:
I will disagree, of course! My point is if you can't make the " community "understand there will be consequences , you are not moving forward! Just bla bla and bla bla again!
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It will make things worse , it was tried and failed before
 
Smudger1 said:
Muslims in general are not targeted as i would hope they are peaceful integrated law abiding contributing positively to our society and dont hate us or uk ?
But the elephant in the room is that the islmamic terrorists that are wreaking havoc here come from their communities and countries of origin , and we could do with the help of thier community to flush out and remove those amongst them and us that would do us harm ?
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Look at the last few who have done something their parents, friends and families have reported them but nothing was done so the blame lies with the government and police who I think are in it upto their eyeballs.
Smudger1 said:
I first got angry with what our country has let in when i saw those filthy animals burning poppies and union jacks ranting at our soldiers marching back on our streets after doing a tour of afgan back in 2007 i think ?

I took an interest in what was happening after that and was shocked to see what was going on in our country hidden by the media and other propaganda deflecting blame away from anything they do !
A lot more horror followed up until all those children were murdered in the manchester arena bombing ! And still it continues....

If you added all the evil thats happened here at the hands of islamic nut jobs or as instructed by the Koran and hadiths etc it would petrify and disgust the hardest of hearts, and if you told anyone here a few decades ago that this is what has become of our country they'd have had you sectioned !!

The peaceful muslims dont deserve to get tarnished with the same brush as the wrong uns but theres a huge number that are extremists and wont integrate and should not be here ! You can see thousands of them marching our streets in loads of groups waving isis banners and chanting hate for us and our traditions and laws etc ..... plus the thousands reported to be on watch lists that can walk around every corner of our isle until they decide tp murder inocent kids and adults at will !
It all f**k*d up mun its so wrong and something different needs to be done using intelligence more effectively or maybe arming the police and other ideas that will have immediate advantage in dealing with those we find, as all the cobra meatings and chin wagging by gutless leaders that wont or cant see whats waiting for our future kids will change nothing quick enough if ever !
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i haven't seen thousands marching with Isis flags you got a link? I would say there were more than 3000 who are pissed off with this country who the police say are in watch.
 
Smudger1 said:
Spot on sir :coffe:
Honest dialogue is important i just wish the media and government gave a more balanced view on the more sensible voices of the left and right without extreme speach, just open honest ideas that could make this country a better place for all that should be here !

But i think its important to shut the borders to any more countries and people that we know will add fuel to the fire thats burning under islamic banners here now. So we have breathing space to get rid of the many undesirables already here ! Then we can operate controlled immigration for those who are safe to let in and will be a good addition to this country ?
Seems the most sensible option / start to reversing the mess gov have made of things here !
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You are aware a lot are home grown?
 
Just one example of the many many thousands of extremist islamists here that intelligence services should identify and remove from uk !
There are so many regularly on our streets spouting hate that our population would drop significantly if they were deported !


This is one of the many things that really pisses off our people and feeds right wing extremists that dont represent the many many angry brits who just want proper reasoned leadership in gov that will do the job of protecting and carrying out the will of the people so we dont get to a point where we have to do itfor ourselves !
 
flynnyman said:
You are aware a lot are home grown?
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Of course and those we cant deport should be imprisoned away from other lags so they cant radicalise them as is happening in there now !
Why do you think our prison population is now largely muslims considering they are only supposed to be 5% of the population ?
 
What would be brilliant if those of us were willing to help the person on public transport getting harassed ,make them feel safe , help the bully out the door ,we need to stop walking on by , the "don't get involved mentality " isn't working , people don't feel safe anymore ,that's how you take your country back not by shouting at the man in the corner shop, don't let the little crimes go, starts off with litter ,
 
Smudger1 said:
Of course and those we cant deport should be imprisoned away from other lags so they cant radicalise them as is happening in there now !
Why do you think our prison population is now largely muslims considering they are only supposed to be 5% of the population ?
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You got a link to the largely Muslim bit? I am aware of what goes on inside but that's the same for most of the races.
 
flynnyman said:
i haven't seen thousands marching with Isis flags you got a link? I would say there were more than 3000 who are pissed off with this country who the police say are in watch.
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If you add up the many many street protests all over the country against the west it adds up to thousands of haters taking the piss in our own country !












The list goes on and on ! They walk amongst us !
 
johniosaif said:
What would be brilliant if those of us were willing to help the person on public transport getting harassed ,make them feel safe , help the bully out the door ,we need to stop walking on by , the "don't get involved mentality " isn't working , people don't feel safe anymore ,that's how you take your country back not by shouting at the man in the corner shop, don't let the little crimes go, starts off with litter ,
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No ones going to do that.
Tell anyone not to do something and you just get stabbed.

No I've got no facts and figures or proof.
Just know this is the general feeling by talking to people.
 
flynnyman said:
You got a link to the largely Muslim bit? I am aware of what goes on inside but that's the same for most of the races.
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Too many ! More need to be built quickly just like housing the size of Birmingham every year to accomodate our population explosion ! Pun intended .
 
Smudger1 said:
If you add up the many many street protests all over the country against the west it adds up to thousands of haters taking the piss in our own country !












The list goes on and on ! They walk amongst us !
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Same guys at each meeting two of the main ones in the vids are locked up.
 
CeeVee said:
No ones going to do that.
Tell anyone not to do something and you just get stabbed.

No I've got no facts and figures or proof.
Just know this is the general feeling by talking to people.
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The girl who stacks the shelves in my local spar seems to know what's going on lol
 
Smudger1 said:


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Too many ! More need to be built quickly just like housing the size of Birmingham every year to accomodate our population explosion ! Pun intended .
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Might want to check your sources are fair and not one sided :)
 
You tube are cutting and sensoring loads of stuff but theres still quite a few vids of hoards of different extremist islamists on there if you look ! There are loads on twitter too but they dissappear after a short while too !
It is happening no matter how much we wish it wasn't and its getting worst every year . Could it have something to do with their population growing here at alarming rates ?
 
flynnyman said:
Might want to check your sources are fair and not one sided :)
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That was just a quick browse as it was easy to find many examples i just put up the first in the long lists to save time without looking to far into the fact they are on our street ranting hate ?
 
The bottom line is id like all those islamists that would inflict the evil from thier koran and the hadiths on our nation or harm our people for religious fanatic reasons to be gone from our society !
And any fully integrated people left to just be and let be .
 
The official figure is that we are adding a million people every 3 years to our population the real figure speculated by many experts ive read ( no link to hand sorry ) and we dont have or and not adding to the housing, nhs, schools, roads, infrastructure etc etc to cope !
So how do we pay for this growth in population that we had no say in ?
 
Muslim extremists want us to hate all muslims. That's how they operate. They use their smaller numbers to manipulate in the only way they know how. It's working too. Hate will breed more hate and it will escalate. This is what they live for.
 
Smudger1 said:
The official figure is that we are adding a million people every 3 years to our population the real figure speculated by many experts ive read ( no link to hand sorry ) and we dont have or and not adding to the housing, nhs, schools, roads, infrastructure etc etc to cope !
So how do we pay for this growth in population that we had no say in ?
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Absolutely right! Besides extremism and terrorism the country is at bursting point and still net migration is 300,000 every year!
 
Smudger1 said:
The official figure is that we are adding a million people every 3 years to our population the real figure speculated by many experts ive read ( no link to hand sorry ) and we dont have or and not adding to the housing, nhs, schools, roads, infrastructure etc etc to cope !
So how do we pay for this growth in population that we had no say in ?
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That's the governments fault, the place is big enough but it's easier for the wealthy to play chess with us.
 
Smudger1 said:
The official figure is that we are adding a million people every 3 years to our population the real figure speculated by many experts ive read ( no link to hand sorry ) and we dont have or and not adding to the housing, nhs, schools, roads, infrastructure etc etc to cope !
So how do we pay for this growth in population that we had no say in ?
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That's the governments fault, the place is big enough but it's easier for the wealthy to play chess with us.
 
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