Trump proved right yet again

flynnyman said:
That's the governments fault, the place is big enough but it's easier for the wealthy to play chess with us.
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Agreed its big enough if they just fitted in like all the other many nationalities that love uk but we cant take all of africa , middle east and other ! Can we ?
Haven't we had enough diversity yet ?
 
flynnyman said:
That's the governments fault, the place is big enough but it's easier for the wealthy to play chess with us.
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You go to Manchester a lot. There's a good chance you've seen the M6, M62 and M60 on a Monday morning. The country may be big enough but we're a small island. Why just build and build and build. Do we really want more pollution, concrete and dependence on even more imported fuels, food etc etc etc.
 
flynnyman said:
That's the governments fault, the place is big enough but it's easier for the wealthy to play chess with us.
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Interesting why saudi and some other arab coun tries that have more in common with these largley economic immigrant young men of fighting age wont take any in at all or if some do its small numbers ?
Trump proved right yet again
 
Islam is a vile religion. If so called "peace loving muslims" were as peace loving as we are led to believe then they would abandon their hate filled religion. They don't have to stay a part of it just because they were born into it. Let's see them do that and show us how much they really want to intergrate. Until then they may as well all be suspects.
 
Smudger1 said:
Interesting why saudi and some other arab coun tries that have more in common with these largley economic immigrant young men of fighting age wont take any in at all or if some do its small numbers ?
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Funnily enough, a lot of the refugees (or economic migrants) are from a different muslim sect to the Saudis so they hate the Saudis or fear what would happen to them if they went there. No point running away from ISIS to go and live in a country that is run by people exactly the same as ISIS.
Muslims are so peace loving that they hate other muslims.
 
BigBruvOfEnglandUK said:
Funnily enough, a lot of the refugees (or economic migrants) are from a different muslim sect to the Saudis so they hate the Saudis or fear what would happen to them if they went there. No point running away from ISIS to go and live in a country that is run by people exactly the same as ISIS.
Muslims are so peace loving that they hate other muslims.
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Funny & Agree
 
BigBruvOfEnglandUK said:
Islam is a vile religion. If so called "peace loving muslims" were as peace loving as we are led to believe then they would abandon their hate filled religion. They don't have to stay a part of it just because they were born into it. Let's see them do that and show us how much they really want to intergrate. Until then they may as well all be suspects.
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But its the religion of peace mun !
Anyone thats read the koran and hadiths which ive not read all of yet but have read enough to see its a violent barbaric ideology which thank fek not all muslims live by word for word or We'd be in bigger trouble ! But too many live and take it literally and that is now a huge problem since greedy western leaders opened pandoras box over oil etc !
Religion is a scurge on humanity over centuries and will continue to be while people believe they have an imaginary friend in the sky !

And although the west has screwed up the hornets nest in the middle east in the last century the muslims themselves have been killing each other in the many millions for well over a thousand years !
The crusades were the only historical attack by the west and that was to drive back the advancing calaphate that we are seeing again now !
 
Smudger1 said:
Agreed its big enough if they just fitted in like all the other many nationalities that love uk but we cant take all of africa , middle east and other ! Can we ?
Haven't we had enough diversity yet ?
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I was having a similar conversation with my friend from Spain ;) the problem is the same problem that happened back in the 70s when I grew up in manchester. My mam came and settled In a mainly Irish and West I****n part of manchester which I'm sure everyone has heard of moss side. We stook together and we didn't see racism from within it all came from the outside. There were places I couldn't go with my black mates, clubs we knew we had no chance and the same was for our parents, some of the s**t that was said to my mam by grown men and women would shock you and as a kid it wasn't very nice. Until it starts working from both ways it will never work and that's why I stuck up for muslims because I know they are not all the same. If you start looking at people coz of their skin colour you need your head checking, I haven't got all the answers to fix it and I'm aware of what's going on but turning on people coz of their skin colour or religion is not going to fix it it will make things worse. And that's not saying let's ignore it it's saying it's not the way to sort it.
 
BigBruvOfEnglandUK said:
Funnily enough, a lot of the refugees (or economic migrants) are from a different muslim sect to the Saudis so they hate the Saudis or fear what would happen to them if they went there. No point running away from ISIS to go and live in a country that is run by people exactly the same as ISIS.
Muslims are so peace loving that they hate other muslims.
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Yes but there are many safe countries between there and here that is more suited to thier ways and traditions that are not compatible with our way of life and traditions, we find a lot of the stuff they do to each other abhorant !
You have syrian young men that fled and left their women behind ffs ! If it was that bad would you leave your mrs n kids to face all that alone ?
Even some of thier women are fighting out there which makes these masses of young fighting age men that have come to eu either s**t house scum or invaders ? Saudi offered to pay for hundreds of mosques to be built in germany etc, why ?
 
flynnyman said:
I was having a similar conversation with my friend from Spain ;) the problem is the same problem that happened back in the 70s when I grew up in manchester. My mam came and settled In a mainly Irish and West I****n part of manchester which I'm sure everyone has heard of moss side. We stook together and we didn't see racism from within it all came from the outside. There were places I couldn't go with my black mates, clubs we knew we had no chance and the same was for our parents, some of the s**t that was said to my mam by grown men and women would shock you and as a kid it wasn't very nice. Until it starts working from both ways it will never work and that's why I stuck up for muslims because I know they are not all the same. If you start looking at people coz of their skin colour you need your head checking, I haven't got all the answers to fix it and I'm aware of what's going on but turning on people coz of their skin colour or religion is not going to fix it it will make things worse. And that's not saying let's ignore it it's saying it's not the way to sort it.
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And the left go on about skin colour again, Islam is the real problem not skin colour. No one has said skin colour bar the lefties.
 
I think it says in the Koran, like that preacher bloke in the earlier vid...." if you are not Muslim....you are an infidel"........ok so what?.... it goes on to say (if you interpret it so).....that it's the duty of a Muslim to kill all infidels wherever he finds them!!
So an impressionable Muslim might think it's ok to plant a bomb or take out a knife....
Incidentally, have you noticed that most of the Muslim terrorists we see are not the venerable grey bearded blokes spouting all the hate messages? The cynic in me might think the young Muslim man is being manipulated a bit ....
 
flynnyman said:
I haven't got all the answers to fix it and I'm aware of what's going on but turning on people coz of their skin colour or religion is not going to fix it it will make things worse. And that's not saying let's ignore it it's saying it's not the way to sort it.
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You better strap in tight for whats coming.
Come back in ten years and lets see if you're still spouting nonsense.
 
flynnyman said:
I was having a similar conversation with my friend from Spain ;) the problem is the same problem that happened back in the 70s when I grew up in manchester. My mam came and settled In a mainly Irish and West I****n part of manchester which I'm sure everyone has heard of moss side. We stook together and we didn't see racism from within it all came from the outside. There were places I couldn't go with my black mates, clubs we knew we had no chance and the same was for our parents, some of the s**t that was said to my mam by grown men and women would shock you and as a kid it wasn't very nice. Until it starts working from both ways it will never work and that's why I stuck up for muslims because I know they are not all the same. If you start looking at people coz of their skin colour you need your head checking, I haven't got all the answers to fix it and I'm aware of what's going on but turning on people coz of their skin colour or religion is not going to fix it it will make things worse. And that's not saying let's ignore it it's saying it's not the way to sort it.
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Jamaican, Trinidad Tobago immigrants intrigated into society though , Muslim have never had the intention mate that is the difference.
Nottingham has a big community from both that's what I have seen.
 
Vincey said:
Jamaican, Trinidad Tobago immigrants intrigated into society though , Muslim have never had the intention mate that is the difference.
Nottingham has a big community from both that's what I have seen.
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Hello, vincey going all political, great point well made my friend
 
gps said:
Hello, vincey going all political, great point well made my friend
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Serious I grow up in inner city Nottingham probably not to different to Manchester tbh , big Caribbean community, when I first left school I worked right in the middle of that community tbh got to see a side of things that I probably wouldn't of if I didn't and later read a lot more about it too , the Caribbean or common wealth immagrants in 50s had a lot of racial provocation, there was back lashes to this ,riots etc, but in general since, they and generations after have intrigated where as the Muslim immigrants haven't as such
 
Vincey said:
Jamaican, Trinidad Tobago immigrants intrigated into society though , Muslim have never had the intention mate that is the difference.
Nottingham has a big community from both that's what I have seen.
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What a stupid statement to make ,you are really dumb, I understand the bigots and the racists ,but how can you state that every Muslim in this country hasn't integrated or even tried , my hat is off too you ,you have out dumbed everyone on here and that is quite an achievement.
 
johniosaif said:
What a stupid statement to make ,you are really dumb, I understand the bigots and the racists ,but how can you state that every Muslim in this country hasn't integrated or even tried , my hat is off too you ,you have out dumbed everyone on here and that is quite an achievement.
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I'd say he's right.
No facts or figures or statistics.
Just what I see where I am.
He's right.
 
johniosaif said:
What a stupid statement to make ,you are really dumb, I understand the bigots and the racists ,but how can you state that every Muslim in this country hasn't integrated or even tried , my hat is off too you ,you have out dumbed everyone on here and that is quite an achievement.
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Keep on apologising for Islam, but it's not going to stop the killings.
 
f**k me a bigot , don't see how you can say that when u don't know me at all, people go on about London and Manchester as if it's the holy grail of multi culture England, ridiculous really as Nottingham inner city where I grew up and lived
 
flynnyman said:
I was having a similar conversation with my friend from Spain ;) the problem is the same problem that happened back in the 70s when I grew up in manchester. My mam came and settled In a mainly Irish and West I****n part of manchester which I'm sure everyone has heard of moss side. We stook together and we didn't see racism from within it all came from the outside. There were places I couldn't go with my black mates, clubs we knew we had no chance and the same was for our parents, some of the s**t that was said to my mam by grown men and women would shock you and as a kid it wasn't very nice. Until it starts working from both ways it will never work and that's why I stuck up for muslims because I know they are not all the same. If you start looking at people coz of their skin colour you need your head checking, I haven't got all the answers to fix it and I'm aware of what's going on but turning on people coz of their skin colour or religion is not going to fix it it will make things worse. And that's not saying let's ignore it it's saying it's not the way to sort it.
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What do you think is different from then and now flynny? I'll tell you what- the culture and mindset, do I have to mention "religion ". I think you are missing the point here . These so called terror attacks are masking very well the real issue or goal - taking over. Irish didn't come to England to take over , didn't came over to force their religion and way of leaving, but the muslim do.When was the last time you heard a school to serve Irish stew Or traditional jamaican or other culture dish, only because is disrespectful? You are saying not all of them are bad , but how do you know that? I doubt you do unless you can read minds. I have said it before and will now- Cameron was the first one to take on schools and mosques. Who is doing what now? You say it's the governments fault, but we chose them, we gave them the power to make decisions for us in this order don't you think we are the ones to blame for? What we do is just venting and turning heads the other way cos we know we are not going to change anything and we will run to the polls next time to vote for the same shite, but under different name! No point really getting involved in politics and religion this is about how stubborn and narrow minded you are! You say no I say yes and so on .
And by the way why I can see political or religious s**t going on here when I have banned the politics section on here. They always boils the s**t of me cos shows how dumb and f**k*d we are!
@Danny
 
Danny said:
come on play nice... no need to fight between yourselves...
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Good point Danny but hard when theres some know it all idiot on here who is better than the rest of us.

I'm sure he's arguing just to cause tension.

Surely he cant really beleive what hes saying.
 
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