Whats going on? .... Crazy prices.

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Artisan998 said:
I hear what ya saying marra. i think its natural to think about dropping ya prices when it goes a bit quiet but more often than not if you hang on a little bit the work tends to come to you.....:RpS_thumbup:
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What do you do when you win the work at the lower rate and book it in for a few weeks time, meanwhile, you get another job come in for more money, your standard rate, for the days you have the already booked job?

A. Decline the work?
B. Take the work and sod off your client already booked to the detriment of your reputation?

I have no answer for this btw:RpS_crying:
 
Fourplastering said:
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What do you do when you win the work at the lower rate and book it in for a few weeks time, meanwhile, you get another job come in for more money, your standard rate, for the days you have the already booked job?

A. Decline the work?
B. Take the work and sod off your client already booked to the detriment of your reputation?

I have no answer for this btw:RpS_crying:
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do what i always do tell the new job im busy and can they wait if not you cant do it but in the meantime your still grafting. it happens even when your getting your full rate.some peole are unrealistic when after tradesman, thinking they can ring you up and you can start the next day.you cant please everyone but we try our best. no man is an island..........whatever that means...........
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Artisan998 said:
do what i always do tell the new job im busy and can they wait if not you cant do it but in the meantime your still grafting. it happens even when your getting your full rate.some peole are unrealistic when after tradesman, thinking they can ring you up and you can start the next day.you cant please everyone but we try our best. no man is an island..........whatever that means...........
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spunky said:
You desperate bastards working for 120 on domestic stuff
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spunky how much do you take home a week after tax mate?

sub55 said:
i've seen Many top notch plasterers completely underestimate domestic work. first thing that happens is the client does not want you before 9AM so they can get the kids to school then you have to make polite conversation and explain what your going to do then sheet up. Find some wear to wash up and get water etc. suddenly a one day job turns in to two days and your out of pocket.
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most of the people i work for dont want me there till just before 9am and want me gone for when the kids get home from school leaving before 3 suits me mind cos i like to be in the club for 2.30:RpS_biggrin: so a normal size living room will take me 2 days
 
It's an interesting thread this one ... I only ever browse this site as I'm too busy usually in the eve watching porn to bother talking about what I do all day long, but for my 2 pence worth ... As said before on domestic, a room is worth between 3 and 500 squid regardless of how long it takes you, I'll work for builders at £150 a day ... domestic I charge £170 a day, I'm Kent based and I 'normally' get enough work ... I recon if I average it out I work 3 days a week throughout the year, I take 2 holidays .... I still don't earn what I feel I'm worth, but I can live on it

There are defiantly too many people under selling themselves and charging stupidly low rates which drive down everyone else's rates. At the rates I charge I probably get 3 of every 5 jobs I quote on . Its hard graft, and deserves high pay ... losing the will to live now so I'll head back to my Stella and porn.
 
NPS said:
spunky how much do you take home a week after tax mate?



most of the people i work for dont want me there till just before 9am and want me gone for when the kids get home from school leaving before 3 suits me mind cos i like to be in the club for 2.30:RpS_biggrin: so a normal size living room will take me 2 days
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Between 300 and 1300
 
310 then spunky.

I don't get this 'a room is worth so and so'

Surely if a room takes 2 days at 150 a day its worth 300 quid plus mats. If someone charges 130 a day its worth 260 plus mates. How does a room work out to be 'worth' 500 etc.
 
beddy said:
310 then spunky.

I don't get this 'a room is worth so and so'

Surely if a room takes 2 days at 150 a day its worth 300 quid plus mats. If someone charges 130 a day its worth 260 plus mates. How does a room work out to be 'worth' 500 etc.
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god knows
 
beddy said:
310 then spunky.

I don't get this 'a room is worth so and so'

Surely if a room takes 2 days at 150 a day its worth 300 quid plus mats. If someone charges 130 a day its worth 260 plus mates. How does a room work out to be 'worth' 500 etc.
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Because that's what it's worth....I some times look at a job and just think i want x amount of pounds for that, as i think that's what it's worth..I don't price every job on what i want a day and how long it will take, if your in business you need to make a profit to...
 
beddy said:
I don't get this 'a room is worth so and so'

Surely if a room takes 2 days at 150 a day its worth 300 quid plus mats. If someone charges 130 a day its worth 260 plus mates. How does a room work out to be 'worth' 500 etc.
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Me neither.

I price my jobs at the MOST I can get away with. Currently, to get the job that's working out at £100 - £120 a day. Thats for builders. Private I may get £140 - £150+
5 years ago I could get a lot more.

Profit????
That's now my problem. To make a profit I have to lower my living expenses. (Not my holidays tho....)
 
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mmmm everyone on here seems to want more from private and less from builders, im the other way round i charge the builder more and thats because he'll want more out of me both in time and work

i dont make a profit everything i earn gets spent mostly straight away
 
The way I look at it is if I can't earn a decent wage doing this then I may as well go and work for tesco's ... any job is only worth what the customer has already estimated in their own eyes .... but then they have Terry £120 turn up and think thats the right price ............. OR do they listen to the guy that can tell them what he's going to do for their money? Some will - some won't, I'm not going to claim I'm a great spread - I'm ok but no superfast superman, If the customer thinks the price is good you'll get the job, if they prefer you to be in their home they'll tell you they got a cheaper quote - you then decide if you'll do it or not. Personally I've turned down most of those offers because I'm worth more than that.

And NPS ..... I don't think any of us make a profit .... we just earn more or less than last week? Profit?
 
I dont get the whole "gotta make a profit" thing.. EVERYTHING I earn is ******* profit.. the more I earn the more profit I make, I dont pay myself a 'wage'.. everything I have left after paying my bills is my wage, why on earth would I give myself lets say £300 a week as a wage when I can give myself the whole 7/8/900?? If I had two bank accounts and my business account started getting quite a hefty sum in it, all Im gonna do is transfer it straight into me private account and buy a new motorbike/holiday/drugs/booze.. keep life simple. :)
 
Freerider said:
I dont get the whole "gotta make a profit" thing.. EVERYTHING I earn is ******* profit.. the more I earn the more profit I make, I dont pay myself a 'wage'.. everything I have left after paying my bills is my wage, why on earth would I give myself lets say £300 a week as a wage when I can give myself the whole 7/8/900?? If I had two bank accounts and my business account started getting quite a hefty sum in it, all Im gonna do is transfer it straight into me private account and buy a new motorbike/holiday/drugs/booze.. keep life simple. :)
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Exactly
 
I personally find that most builders wont pay over the top for labour but joe public will, and a builder will scrutinise over time spent where a customer will except just having the job done irrelevant to time.
 
if you quote someone £320 and they say to you that you can have the job for £280 do you make it look like you have been trying to rob them and lower your price or just tell them no thanks! ?
 
NPS said:
if you quote someone £320 and they say to you that you can have the job for £280 do you make it look like you have been trying to rob them and lower your price or just tell them no thanks! ?
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I would say that if you give me cash i will do it for £280.............:RpS_thumbup:
 
Had one today who asked me back to have another look at the job as it now included more work. I amended my quote from £1100 to £1400 only for him to say I must have misunderstood him on the phone as the other quote he had was for £1000, so could I match it!!! So he wanted MORE WORK for even less money, fkin clown :RpS_mad:

I told him we'd wasted enough of each others' time, shook his hand and fooked off :RpS_thumbup:
 
bodplasterer said:
Every one wants a bargain and if you think you can make it pay then it makes sense to except the £280
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so why not quote that price in the first place?

Artisan998 said:
I would say that if you give me cash i will do it for £280.............:RpS_thumbup:
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what if he says ill give you cash but i still want a receipt because i work for the tax man and i dont want you not paying any tax

bubbles65 said:
Had one today who asked me back to have another look at the job as it now included more work. I amended my quote from £1100 to £1400 only for him to say I must have misunderstood him on the phone as the other quote he had was for £1000, so could I match it!!! So he wanted MORE WORK for even less money, fkin clown :RpS_mad:

I told him we'd wasted enough of each others' time, shook his hand and fooked off :RpS_thumbup:
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ive had that before mate, i said to him what have you got me here for if youv been quoted less for more work? he said i thought we could have a chat about it :RpS_scared: so i said, but i cant do the original work for that never mind the extra and you have cost me a tenna in juice

obviously he wanted me to do the job but didnt want to pay the quoted price, dont know if he was pulling my leg about the cheaper quote or not but ive a feeling he was, but he was too deep into the conversation to turn round and say go on then Ian you can have the job I was just trying to rob you a little
 
Had that a few times "we've had a guy offering to do all the work for £80 less" .. "oh right, fair enough, well I cant do it for that sorry"..

Leave it a day and "We've decided we'd like to go with you, when can you fit us in"

So obvious they are bullshitting to try and get the price down, I NEVER drop my prices, as said above, why would I do the price for less when asked, it just means I was charging too much anyway! And also I NEVER drop price for cash, cos whose it helping out, not me, I may not pay tax on it but Im earning what I quoted MINUS tax.. so there for Im actually earning exactly the same dosh, so in theory the only one benefitting is the customer, and I say **** EM! I aint doing anyone any favors, if the tight ***** wanna scrimp and scrape and still get a banging job they can go **** themselves, its about time tradesman got some respect for what we do instead of all put in the same catogary as the cuntish cowboys out there! We dont begrudge the customer earning a good living but they seem to always begrudge us, they wanna play a game of whose most stubborn and who aint gonna budge then they'll never win with me, can't stand that feeling that someone has one over on me, Id rather be out of pocket than let some jumped up tosser force me to do a cheap job even though hes probably earning more dough than I am. *****!
 
P.s. on the 'do it for cash' thing, do they really think I want thousands of £ sat on my desk or under my bed?! No thanks, Id rather it in the bank, you know, like a normal person, and how do they expect me to pay my bills when Ive done the job for cheap to save them a few pennies and got all this wonga sat at home.. that I cant put in the bank cos the job 'didnt exist' to the taxman. **** that s**t.
 
Freerider said:
P.s. on the 'do it for cash' thing, do they really think I want thousands of £ sat on my desk or under my bed?! No thanks, Id rather it in the bank, you know, like a normal person, and how do they expect me to pay my bills when Ive done the job for cheap to save them a few pennies and got all this wonga sat at home.. that I cant put in the bank cos the job 'didnt exist' to the taxman. **** that s**t.
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have a breath mate:huh:

thousands of £ sat at home? but the customer is wanting you to cut the price by £80 not even a percentage by the sounds of it :RpS_scared:

your right what you say though
 
Yes NPS, but its the principle, if ALL jobs were cash Id have a suitcase of the s**t under me bed with only one use, playing ******* monopoly. Why should I do the customer a favour, why dont they do me one and you know.. pay the ******* asking price like you do in shops, motor dealers, drug dealers, every other situation under the sun except the building trade.

And while we are on the subject, why dont they pay upfront.. I cant go into sweet shop and take a packet of wine gums and pay after Ive tested them, man clients hav such a backwards r******d way of thinking, makes your blood boil doesnt it.
 
p.s. I am in a good mood, just got a habit of swearing every other sentence, my weekend starts now and dont finish until tuesday, hard weekend of partying ahead so **** the customers, for a week :)
 
Freerider said:
p.s. I am in a good mood, just got a habit of swearing every other sentence, my weekend starts now and dont finish until tuesday, hard weekend of partying ahead so **** the customers, for a week :)
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Keep popping them pills marra.................:RpS_thumbup:
 
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