JohnDoe
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I agree with you that £120 a day for builders where theres no messing about is ok. But i'm talking domestic mate and noway is £120 ok for a full room to a very high standard.
Whats going on? .... Crazy prices.
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I agree with you that £120 a day for builders where theres no messing about is ok. But i'm talking domestic mate and noway is £120 ok for a full room to a very high standard.
Arti
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Just cos you work for £120 a day doesnt make you a mug...how do you compete with with blokes working for beer tokens?????? You cant........and its suprising what standard of work people will put up with when the beer token boys charging £80 a day is ruff as **** but he's got loads of graft. we all want at least £150 a day just sometimes people wont pay it and you cant just keep walking away and living off pride cos it doesnt pay the bills......IMO.........:RpS_thumbsup
the living off pride quote was something i thought the clay monster would say... just got in there 1st.....Soz CM)
essexandy
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Now I know you don't know me but let me assure you that in my thirty years as a spread I've worked on domestics both large and small, one off houses for private clients right through to a site of a thousand houses, as well as commercial jobs so I don't underestimate what's required on a domestic job it's just that having worked on sites for the majority of my time I know how to crack the metres on and still leave a good standard of work and be clean and tidy.
keithuk
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Stick to your guns ,if your good ,it will come in ,you have had a bad run of it by the looks of it .When you are doing domestic ,as you know ,they do not care how quick you are ,it,s how clean you are . Best of luck
hollybank
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No i dont think so! i have a very expensive mrs to keep,so i am very expensive too.I dont do work in S-O-T all my work is based in Newcastle -U-Lyme so the rates are a lot better.:RpS_biggrin:
hollybank
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Exactly what i said to him originally.A bit more money in Newcastle:RpS_wink:
hollybank
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Why what have been up to? You havnt run off with his wife have you:-0
a lot of it has got to do with first impressions.if you look edgy or arrogant you can easily loose the job.they like to be able to trust the person they are inviting into their home regardless if you are good or not.even when you subby work out you tend to get feedback on their attitude aswell as the standard of work and cleanliness.
hollybank
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Hit the nail on the head there mate,its all about first impressions when dealing with the domestic customer,and being able to sell yourself.I have been to many a job and been dearer than another guy but i will reasure them they will get the finish that they desire:RpS_cool:
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hollybank
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It wasnt one of our I****n cousins was it??
Fourplastering
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no. If you start working for 120 a day then all of a sudden your clients tell their friends that you work for 120 and will become busy but will actually earn 150 less per week. Then eventually you will have to drop to 100, then 80. Where does it stop?
I have a minimum rate that i don't go under. If the client starts negotiating under this rate i will walk away.
They will find someone to do it, but it wont be me.
lucius
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Know what you are saying mate but the way i see it you only earn what you ask for, nowadays you have to put yourself out and price as much work as you can if i get 10% of the work i price its enough for me put it this way i would rather build 5 extensions a year for the right money than 10 for crap money ive also targeted a different type of client years ago i kept clear of foreigners as i found them hard work money wise no other reason now 50% of my clients are foreign, rich Greeks, Italians and Hungarians at the moment how things have changed my English customers tend to be recently retired who have a lump to spend they are the group of people you should be targeting so to sum it up if you ask for little you will get little oh and by the way what Nisus said about me is quite correct i do have quite a bit to find each month before i even think of enjoying my self thats why i cant work for silly money.Just cos you work for £120 a day doesnt make you a mug...how do you compete with with blokes working for beer tokens?????? You cant........and its suprising what standard of work people will put up with when the beer token boys charging £80 a day is ruff as **** but he's got loads of graft. we all want at least £150 a day just sometimes people wont pay it and you cant just keep walking away and living off pride cos it doesnt pay the bills......IMO.........:RpS_thumbsup
yes there are plenty of easterns here but they are working on the farms and chicken factories.
but there are a lot of wealthy people, and weekenders living in suffolk. i have not noticed any cut in prices therefore i think that i have been very lucky compared with other people in different areas
kebab king
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Fook im out of touch.Thougtht everyone was like me and getting £250 a day.
Arti
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I hear what your saying but i never said to keep dropping your prices. If you dropped your price from £150-£120 when you were quiet just to ge by the chances of every job you got from then on being from that one person you charged £120 is unlikely. All im saying is that you can possibly work for a little less to get by and i appreciate that there will always be someone cheaper but to say that you would have to keep dropping your prices to get work until your practically buying jobs is unrealistic. Im fortunate enough now to have a decent size client base to keep my prices at a good constant rate but in the past i have dropped my prices when ive been quiet to get some money in........each to there own marra.....:RpS_thumbup:
irish_spread
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Me and my mate will skim 150 +m2 a day quite easily on site but on domesticcs me/him on our own will take 2 days to do a 4mx4m room cos of sheeting up etc etc.
I have noticed that the prices are going down massively cos the easterns, English and Asians working for feck all lately :RpS_biggrin:
I have noticed that the prices are going down massively cos the easterns, English and Asians working for feck all lately :RpS_biggrin:
Fourplastering
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You drop you prices to get the work, then your competition drops their prices to get the work you are quoting for. before you know it you'll be paying your client to work for them.
Seriously, a few years ago, when the recession kicked in a no one was spending, i dropped my prices and actually go less work because of it.
Wether this made me appear like i was desparate, cheap, and therefore a rubbish spread i don't know. But if you pay peanuts.....
I am finding a lot more people are having a go at plastering (diyers) and making do with what they have done.
People want value for money. If one spread quotes a room at 300 and a days work and another quotes 350 and a day and a half/2 days. Often the 2 days will win because they think that person is spending more time at getting things right.
It doesn't make sense but just going on what i have found out.
beader
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Fucks me right off when domestic clients try and get you to come down on your price , these are usually the same people who will think nothing of taking there shine'y new cars to a main dealer garage and pay 40 / 50£ per hour to have some work done but just because you are in the building trade they think that they can get you to work for less. At the end of the day you know what you are worth as a tradesman but sadly as has been said before plastering is now broken trade with to many have a goes/chancers etc and we are all fighting each other for the work .All i will say is never sell yourself short but in these hard times sometimes you have to take a nibble of the s**t sandwich.
say one thing about this thread johndoe,certainly got a good varied opinion, from everybody , but the reality is which part of the country we live in, the many rich affluent areas where plasterers are probably reading these replies, looking at the rates quoted will be gratefull they live where they are,and of course vice versa in the not so prosperous parts of the country will be wishing they could charge these rates, it is a subject which could go on ,but in reality we are all right.
JohnDoe
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Labour, but can put on.
JohnDoe
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It was mate yes ... lol
Arti
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I hear what ya saying marra. i think its natural to think about dropping ya prices when it goes a bit quiet but more often than not if you hang on a little bit the work tends to come to you.....:RpS_thumbup:
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