Arti
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The earth's flat. Everyone knows that cos John Travolta says it it
Who's changed there minds on Brexit
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Retired Spread
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yes
the question on the ballot paper was do you want to remain or leave the European Union.
2 options
I don't recall there being a question do you want to leave without a deal.
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Retired Spread
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you still haven't answered my question
essexandy
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I answered it in earlier post before you even asked it. You ok?
lurpak
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Render money wouldn’t get me boots out van chubbs
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Lol so the whole build up to the referendum is irrelevant and promises and the fact the literature from vote leave stating we would have a deal?
It's like if there was a vote on if HS2 should go ahead. It will cost 10 billion, do you want it or not, Yes or No? Yes go on then that's cheap for what it is. Ok we'll go ahead, btw though it's actually going to be 100billion but never mind it was a yes or no question
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essexandy
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It was never going to be easy negotiating with the EU, but I don't think many guessed the lengths that those in parliament and the media, who want to remain, would go to in an attempt to make sure that negotiation is impossible.
Try getting a good deal from a car salesman when you've already told him that you're going to buy his car no matter whether he offers a good deal or not.
The right to walk away without a deal is imperative.
Anyone that changes from leave to remain has just followed exactly the path that those shite remain MP's wanted you to.
Retired Spread
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regardless of what was said before the vote took place,it was either remain or leave on ballot paper
what part of that don't you understand?
Arti
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Exactly my point. The premise was to leave the EU for the benefit of the people and No Deal doesn't do that
Retired Spread
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and how do you know that?
can i borrow your crystal ball please for next weeks lotto numbers?
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There's no talking to you. One of dumbest things I've heard
Arti
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We will go straight on to WTO rules as we don't have any trade deals so we will pay more for certain products. You still haven't given a benefit of leaving yet. Don't you know any?
essexandy
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Do you think that Boris wanted to leave without a deal? Or do you think that he needed the threat of it to negotiate a decent deal?
Personally I believe that we would have left without a deal in place and that one would have been sorted very soon after leaving.
The EU were absolutely kacking themselves about us leaving smoothly and everything looking great to the outside world, because they know full well that there are other member countries gagging to get out.
What has occurred is their dream scenario.
Wayners
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What happened to keep your enemies close or better to piss from the inside out.
No deal won't happen and nobody voted for that. Parliament won't let a no deal through because of the possible damage. I think this will rumble on for years with no answer if boris don't get no deal through on 31st.
No deal won't happen and nobody voted for that. Parliament won't let a no deal through because of the possible damage. I think this will rumble on for years with no answer if boris don't get no deal through on 31st.
Retired Spread
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so you can't answer the question then?
we've had the referendum
leave or remain on ballot paper
leave won
remain (you) lost
after more than 3 years,time to pick your dummy back up Gobbo and move on
Just to add the figures involved would have been a landslide if transfered to a normal election!
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Will the EU not have to buy from us at the same , are you thinking no deal only effects us
Smudger1
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It's hysterical how the remoaners think we didn't know what we voted for ! Smug arrogant 2hats think we don't know that all political parties lie and cheat to get what they want and to keep power ! From major, bliare n Cambel to camoron Brussels mob etc ...
The bias media are to blame just as much for the dragging out of the democratic vote to leave that all parties said must be delivered ! The question on the vote was leave or remain nothing else ! No matter how it's been spinned and twisted since that was the choice and must be honoured by the dummy spitting 2hats that are trying every dirty trick in the book to thwart democracy here !
Article 50 means we are 100% leaving but the raging remoaner fanatics that are not used to not getting thier own way would even try and reverse that if they can ! Treacherous cnuts !
Mays surrender deal was refused 3 or 4 times as many think it was written for her in Brussels!
We are supposed to roll over and accept the surrender document but many don't watch or trust the remain bias media and will not back down regardless how they ramp up the fear propaganda !
The biggest damage to UK so far since the leave victory vote has come from the remoaners and I wouldn't put it past the quizlings in charge to deliberately make things unnecessarily worst to con people to just give up !
All this crap about a no deal ! We want a deal but if the superstate don't want to give one in fear of members leaving too it shows how shaky thier project really is when losing the 2nd biggest payer into the eu black hole filled with mostly takers is !
Germany devalued thier currency when the eu started while countries like Italy and Greece had to falsely raise thier currency values now look who's done the best over the years out of the project and then look at the others who will never be able to recover and get out of the debt they have while still in !
Irish border red herring ! We won't build a border neither will the eu ! So Ireland is just a pawn being used by eu who would ruin Eire if it served thier purposes !
There are many more examples of why out on WTO rules would be better than staying in the corrupt empire building lying gravy train riders project if they won't do a deal then that will harm them as well , the Germans are into the start of a recession and as the top dogs behind Brussels mob they would cut loose the others too if it threatened to bring them down !
We have over 50 trade ports but the remoaners concentrate on Dover plus we have many pharmaceutical manufacturing companies here, we have huge farm lands per acre here we have oil, gas, coal water etc etc etc we are in the top end of wealthy countries with a banking sector and other top business interests that are the envy of the world, but most of all we can still vote out and in people that could utilises all the good things in and about UK for our benefit once we cut loose from the failing power mad superstate gangsters !
There's much more but I'll wait for the remainiacs to respond first .
The bias media are to blame just as much for the dragging out of the democratic vote to leave that all parties said must be delivered ! The question on the vote was leave or remain nothing else ! No matter how it's been spinned and twisted since that was the choice and must be honoured by the dummy spitting 2hats that are trying every dirty trick in the book to thwart democracy here !
Article 50 means we are 100% leaving but the raging remoaner fanatics that are not used to not getting thier own way would even try and reverse that if they can ! Treacherous cnuts !
Mays surrender deal was refused 3 or 4 times as many think it was written for her in Brussels!
We are supposed to roll over and accept the surrender document but many don't watch or trust the remain bias media and will not back down regardless how they ramp up the fear propaganda !
The biggest damage to UK so far since the leave victory vote has come from the remoaners and I wouldn't put it past the quizlings in charge to deliberately make things unnecessarily worst to con people to just give up !
All this crap about a no deal ! We want a deal but if the superstate don't want to give one in fear of members leaving too it shows how shaky thier project really is when losing the 2nd biggest payer into the eu black hole filled with mostly takers is !
Germany devalued thier currency when the eu started while countries like Italy and Greece had to falsely raise thier currency values now look who's done the best over the years out of the project and then look at the others who will never be able to recover and get out of the debt they have while still in !
Irish border red herring ! We won't build a border neither will the eu ! So Ireland is just a pawn being used by eu who would ruin Eire if it served thier purposes !
There are many more examples of why out on WTO rules would be better than staying in the corrupt empire building lying gravy train riders project if they won't do a deal then that will harm them as well , the Germans are into the start of a recession and as the top dogs behind Brussels mob they would cut loose the others too if it threatened to bring them down !
We have over 50 trade ports but the remoaners concentrate on Dover plus we have many pharmaceutical manufacturing companies here, we have huge farm lands per acre here we have oil, gas, coal water etc etc etc we are in the top end of wealthy countries with a banking sector and other top business interests that are the envy of the world, but most of all we can still vote out and in people that could utilises all the good things in and about UK for our benefit once we cut loose from the failing power mad superstate gangsters !
There's much more but I'll wait for the remainiacs to respond first .
Arti
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Clearly it doesn't which is why they don't want us to leave. I'm thinking more locally with why I've changed my decision. Nissan employs thousands locally and 10% tariffs on WTO has to affect jobs. Plenty farming up here in Northumberland 40% on lamb 60% on beef exports. How many trade deals has the government negotiated so far?......... Zero. Leaving was supposed to be to our benefit and still no-one has mentioned a benefit to leaving.... Strange that
Voted leave, I'm still at leave,(for tonnes of reasons that have been mentioned) just want it done now. What happens if there's another vote dragging on for another 6 months, and costing 100s of millions more, and it's a narrow for leave, is it then best out of 3......? It was a simple vote to leave or stay question,not if that, because of this etc...
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Don't think people thought it was going to be an immediate success , Nissan is a good example , if its not viable , move on and do something that is , same as farming , not profitable then why do it , false economy to blunder on at the tax payers expense
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you're fkin full of s**t Arti coming on here saying you've changed your mind from leave to remain.......just the way you're talking exactly like Gobbo confirms that you never were a leaver
you know it comes to something when the lefty Labour/Momentum remainiac stooges have to troll a plastering forum to vent their anger over 3 years on that the referendum result didn't go their way
your desperation is laughable
you're fkin full of s**t Arti coming on here saying you've changed your mind from leave to remain.......just the way you're talking exactly like Gobbo confirms that you never were a leaver
you know it comes to something when the lefty Labour/Momentum remainiac stooges have to troll a plastering forum to vent their anger over 3 years on that the referendum result didn't go their way
your desperation is laughable
Arti
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Venting my anger? It did go my way initially I'm just saying I'm better I formed. I thought the thread was a valid question?. I'm entitled to have a different view like you are to have yours. Regardless what Ive posted the vote was the vote
If anyone is angry it's you calling other people with different options c**ts. And what's laughable is I've asked you numerous times to give what you see are the benefits of leaving and your still yet to come up with any
Bit strong that.
Arti
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He's missing the point of the question let him have his rant. I'm tyneside toughened I can take it
Ritch
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Immigration bleeding the system dry and breeding like rats is that not good enough reason ?
Im not so sure at all leave will it again. Infact i reckon everyone, like original post, has had their minds changed because of all the fear mongering in the news and f**k**g about by politicians and vote would go other way.
Smudger1
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Smudger1
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Criticising migration could become CRIMINAL offence under new plan
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Corbyn wants unlimited open border immigration !
Immigration is a bit of a red herring for me.
we need immigration every stable country needs it, it's the ilk of the daily mail pandering Romanians etc coming over here claiming benefits etc I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but there's no mention of the high percentage of Romanians (particular near me) that work in the crop fields, that graft and pay tax, and that do jobs indigenous English people won't do.
It needs controlling better, but we still need immigration to thrieve.