Apprentice..Any good.

Status
Not open for further replies.
zolco said:
Yes, but don't you think if they given you a day per week to show some stuff you would've picked it up quicker, they could've turned more work out if you can pitch in.
I do have bad experience every now and then, most times it's something to do with attitude.
I know all sorts of trades some good some not so good. Some keen some not so keen, it is just what it is. I'm sure you top notch I never questioned that pal, but like skimming you can pick it up in a day, you either got it in you or you haven't, that's how I see it. It's not rocket science. Hate it when people trying to make out their trade is like you have to be like f**k**g gifted and can't be just picked up and learned along the way, that's like proper plumbers and electricians s**t talk mate. This trade is divided anyway, some only does rendering or skimming or just dryline, etc.
Anyway you think whatever you want to think about multi trades people you entitled to your opinion.

Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Each to their own,nothing wrong with multi trading.As regards skimming I don't think anyone could pick it up in one day.In rural Ireland you do the lot,inside and outside.It's only in the big towns and cities it gets broken up.I have noticed that lads that just do skimming get slated on this forum.Don't forget it's the finish on a house and a good skimming job is a skill.
 
theplasterman said:
Thinking about this for a few days (I must be a bit of a weirdo)
@zolco it may be easy to pick up skimming quite quickly but come on it got to be a few years before you can class yourself as good at it, has it not ?
You can't just say anyone can just pick it up
Blooming hecker's we are turning ourselves into the scum of the trade here.
Where has the pride gone in plaster world .
I only have time to do plastering.
That's all I do
That's all I want to do.
Click to expand...
I'm not debating that old school apprenticeship is a good thing. I'm only saying that this always ends up like this. Sure you need a few years to get really good at it in certain aspects. What people say always apprentice's doesn't want to graft for next to nothing, which I completely understand as we live in a world where everything expensive. Apprentices dont see it as a future they see it as a job there and then. I don't think labouring for years for a gang who's on price will teach you a lot day by day. Better off with a one man band who's got the time to show you the ropes.
If you happy to do plastering only, then good on you. I'd break after a month. I like the variety to do other things, and I believe it's easier on me physically but more demanding mentally.
I wouldn't be able to do all aspects as people come and go it's hard to find someone reliable who happy to stick with the job, most who are good they go out themselves and do little jobs, room at the time or something like that. There's thousands of them like that out there, I can't see point of competing with them.
I ain't no billy the big bollox I know where I'm from, and I know where I'm heading to.
But here's a few pics from someone who is in the trade, he's got an apprentice for himself he was best in class and he's doing this day in day out for more than 10 years
Apprentice..Any good.
Apprentice..Any good.
Apprentice..Any good.
Apprentice..Any good.
Apprentice..Any good.

And don't tell me that easyfill will get over it. Customer listed 17 faults all within 9m² with 2 sets of reveals on new board work.


Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
 
Pagey said:
Don't wanna kiss Arse but that's exactly what I think there is more to being a plasterer than just skimming and as we have seen photos of people's work on here that profess to be plasterers by irate customers I would say it's pretty easy to mess up as well as get right I haven't got every tool to do every trade nor do I want to invest in them as my skill set is plastering
Click to expand...
That's not brown nosing mate, I wouldn't take it that way.

Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
 
As long as you good at it what you doing who cares what aspects or what other trades you doing to make a living.

Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
 
If I was a plumber I wouldn't have to pay the call out charge and to fix my boiler that's currently pissing out water I between trying to go to work today
 
I do a number of things and this has all been gone through on threads before.
I'm 48 and been grafting since 13 so no feck wit will tell me I'm incapable of being good at more than one thing.
As according to my maths that's 7 apprenticeships along the hard knocks of life road.
All those who stick to one trade and are happy that's fine I'm sure there busy and not shouting the odds on here as they have better things to do.
Personally I feel the same life ain't black n white and peeps either for financial reasons or just opportunity diversify if their good who cares and who should.:coffe:
 
theplasterman said:
Thinking about this for a few days (I must be a bit of a weirdo)
@zolco it may be easy to pick up skimming quite quickly but come on it got to be a few years before you can class yourself as good at it, has it not ?
You can't just say anyone can just pick it up
Blooming hecker's we are turning ourselves into the scum of the trade here.
Where has the pride gone in plaster world .
I only have time to do plastering.
That's all I do
That's all I want to do.
Click to expand...


That's all well and good if the work is there. Here one can't rely on just plastering for a full time wage anymore so have to do other things as well. Thankfully I can multi trade myself but one thing I do have in my favour, at least I've experience in what I do, I've seen others who just try it for the sake of it and don't leave a good job. There's good and bad multi traders out there but at the end of the day and I've mentioned this a few times, if the customer is happy and ha eat been ripped off, then that's all that matters.
 
Pagey said:
If I was a plumber I wouldn't have to pay the call out charge and to fix my boiler that's currently pissing out water I between trying to go to work today
Click to expand...
That won't be cheap for a Saturday emergency call out.

Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
 
zolco said:
I'm not debating that old school apprenticeship is a good thing. I'm only saying that this always ends up like this. Sure you need a few years to get really good at it in certain aspects. What people say always apprentice's doesn't want to graft for next to nothing, which I completely understand as we live in a world where everything expensive. Apprentices dont see it as a future they see it as a job there and then. I don't think labouring for years for a gang who's on price will teach you a lot day by day. Better off with a one man band who's got the time to show you the ropes.
If you happy to do plastering only, then good on you. I'd break after a month. I like the variety to do other things, and I believe it's easier on me physically but more demanding mentally.
I wouldn't be able to do all aspects as people come and go it's hard to find someone reliable who happy to stick with the job, most who are good they go out themselves and do little jobs, room at the time or something like that. There's thousands of them like that out there, I can't see point of competing with them.
I ain't no billy the big bollox I know where I'm from, and I know where I'm heading to.
But here's a few pics from someone who is in the trade, he's got an apprentice for himself he was best in class and he's doing this day in day out for more than 10 years View attachment 10854View attachment 10855View attachment 10856View attachment 10857View attachment 10858
And don't tell me that easyfill will get over it. Customer listed 17 faults all within 9m² with 2 sets of reveals on new board work.


Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
Click to expand...




That reveal is a fcuking disgrace!
 
The building trades have been in decline this 20 years. It's as simple as that. All it is now is get in and get out as quickly as you can. And that's all trades.

Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
 
Just in general to get back on topic for any potential lads leaving school and being taken on as apprentice plasterer and reading this thread give the plasterer 4/5 years to do there best for you so you are as good as you can be then if you want to bomb off to do all the other trades fine, the rest of the multitrades that have said what they have didn't just pick up all the other stuff over night it all comes with time..

Plasterers are the best though
Men in white put things right.
 
theplasterman said:
Just in general to get back on topic for any potential lads leaving school and being taken on as apprentice plasterer and reading this thread give the plasterer 4/5 years to do there best for you so you are as good as you can be then if you want to bomb off to do all the other trades fine, the rest of the multitrades that have said what they have didn't just pick up all the other stuff over night it all comes with time..

Plasterers are the best though
Men in white put things right.
Click to expand...
Apprentice..Any good.
 
theplasterman said:
Just in general to get back on topic for any potential lads leaving school and being taken on as apprentice plasterer and reading this thread give the plasterer 4/5 years to do there best for you so you are as good as you can be then if you want to bomb off to do all the other trades fine, the rest of the multitrades that have said what they have didn't just pick up all the other stuff over night it all comes with time..

Plasterers are the best though
Men in white put things right.
Click to expand...


I agree, took me 20 years of experience in other trades. One thing I'm s**t at and would never charge is putting up wallpaper. One time I did this for the misses in our own house on chimney breast, came down stairs the next morning and 2 layers where lying on the floor lol. I know if I tried it again I'd probably have no probs but refused to go near it since that day about 18 years ago lol.

As for plasterers are best, id agree to a certain extent and that's with everything I do. I have a love hate relationship with all what I do. You can't beat being out in the sun beating down in ya building a stone wall out in countryside thou f**k**g hate it when it's raining, muddy and windy! Hate floating sand and cement on gables on really good summer days but don't mind it on mild days. Skimming isn't to bad when looking outside and the rain is beating down like there's no tomorrow but f**k**g hate it when it's 28 degrees outside. So to summarize, Plastering is s**t and good but tbh, I can't wait to the day I'm driving about in my range rover, suited and booted driving around making sure my workers are keeping my name up to standard. Yes, we can dream :inocente::descansando:
 
, I can't wait to the day I'm driving about in my range rover, suited and booted driving around making sure my workers are keeping my name up to standard. Yes, we can dream :inocente::descansando:[/QUOTE]

So you want to be me.(y)
 
flynnyman said:
Lol I wasn't gonna say anything but if he isn't told now he will carry on being a rough f**k*r for the rest of his life :)
Click to expand...
Is 4 screws across a 6x3 not enough? anything left in found a decent home in a lathe...if it hit nothing I pulled it out.
 
flynnyman said:
I would go with at least five
Click to expand...

Noted, also a lot of them weren't misses...i was using 50mm screws and some weren't getting enough purchase for my liking so was sticking a 65mm next to them.
 
Lodan said:
Noted, also a lot of them weren't misses...i was using 50mm screws and some weren't getting enough purchase for my liking so was sticking a 65mm next to them.
Click to expand...
If 50's weren't big enough you should of gone with the 60's but 50's are usually alright for most overboard a so maybe you were missing? Also looking t it they look like misses whether that are or not which looks s**t.
 
flynnyman said:
If 50's weren't big enough you should of gone with the 60's but 50's are usually alright for most overboard a so maybe you were missing? Also looking t it they look like misses whether that are or not which looks s**t.
Click to expand...
I plastered over it so the asthetics aren't important
 
Lodan said:
I plastered over it so the asthetics aren't important
Click to expand...
They are coz someone seen it ie the customer, builder or plasterer your working for oh and the whole of the world online ;) stop kidding yourself coz when the nails pop then we can talk aesthetics xx
 
You cant get my goat flynnybob...im impervious to your wind up tactics(y)
 
flynnyman said:
They are coz someone seen it ie the customer or the builder
Click to expand...
If they was worried about how the boarding looked they would have mentioned......they didn't....they did mention how snazzy my orange scrim looked though(y)
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Share this page

Back
Top