Have i been taught right?

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Render Systems said:
i have never used a sponge in my life on multifinish... whats the world coming to... just lay your first coat on reasonably level and flat try not to leave any lines as they could show through second coat... lay second coat on nice and flat... let it take up a bit then flatten in once or twice as required then finish with a small amount of water and a nice clean trowel... keep your sponge for the bathroom mate
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We were not trained the sponge way we were trained the right way...
 
This thread is the ultimate example that there are different ways to achieve the desired result.

Do what ever suits you!
 
Ive only plastering a few months so the sponge is a handy tool for me ,,but ive been working with a seasoned plasterer who dosnt use them but is gradually starting to warm to the sponge because of the time it cuts of a set and at the same time ive done a couple of walls without it with the same smooth finish ..so maybe i will stop using it after a while maybe not,,
 
sponge float..:RpS_thumbdn: only good for amateurs. When your good like me:RpS_biggrin: you just lay on flat then second coat and trowel 4 times max..Job done!
 
correct me if i`m wrong but isn't a plasterers sponge float meant for rendering?
I recently used a sponge float to see what all the hype was about, and yes it does help to get the wall flat but it can also get messy:-(.
 
Trowel,....eeerrrhh SPONGE FLOAT, Trowel.
So you use a float on skimming?..........some of the old ways are dying out
....look at dot dabbing how many people fix dots to the wall then dabs of adhesive....so now its called dabbing is it???
i don't know anyone that uses a float when skimming and i bet you don't either.you just use Trowel, Trowel.:rolleyes)
 
Orange sponge floats are medium to fine 20mm thick sponge face
blue sponge floats are medium to hard 15mm thick sponge face
grey sponge floats have a harder sponge face all can be used on plaster and cement surface so take your pick
or a cheap verson thick carpet and old float
 
Scott3698
A seasoned plasterer is veteran LOL. You can bring multi back from the dead it called sandpaper
 
speedy said:
Orange sponge floats are medium to fine 20mm thick sponge face
blue sponge floats are medium to hard 15mm thick sponge face
grey sponge floats have a harder sponge face all can be used on plaster and cement surface so take your pick
or a cheap verson thick carpet and old float
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and they all do the same thing bring sand to the surface
 
You can use a felt float mate it will do the same as a sponge and so the list will go on , me am old school I was brought up with a 11" trowel that say;s it all.
 
trowel troweling is best but they dont teach us youngens like the old school plasterers this days i worked with a spread they put his second coat of setting on with a wooden cross grain float and even did 3 coat work but this days theres not enough time out on site and its all rush rush rush!!
keep reading people saying spounge floats are only for bringing setting back to life witch is true but if you want your hit to go off you dont through as much water on it and you will be suprised how much time it saves you when your on a price, but each to ther own i suppose
 
He would only be putting it on with a cross grain if it was Syraphite and that was a few years ago
 
lucius said:
He would only be putting it on with a cross grain if it was Syraphite and that was a few years ago
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yes your right and that was long befour my time but this old spread even dose it with multi this days but like he said to me his to old to change his ways
 
I never laid syraphite on with float just floated up with it, you could also get small plastic syraphite floats aint seen one for years.
 
spunky said:
Why did peopl use floats to lay on with?
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A wooden float doesn't flex like a steel trowel , so you lay on flatter:-) I still like to use a wooden or poly float when laying on backing plasters on ceilings & walls as you get the plaster MUCH flatter. Any Monkey can smooth out plaster but not anybody can lay on plaster flat
 
sponge float my arse

thank feck for that now i know im on the right site ! what on earth are they on about floats and sponges are render only and as for a spongefloat ~!!!!!!!!!! get the feck outta here !!!!!!!!!:RpS_w00t::RpS_w00t::RpS_w00t::RpS_w00t::RpS_w00t: :flapper::flapper::flapper:
 
Interesting mate. How does the fat weaken the gypsum? I used to trowel a lot of fat back into my walls n ceilings. I think the main thing is as long as it's flat, smooth, clean crisp corners and tidy.

I put on flat and fill anything out,
second coat,
flatten with refina spat for speed,
wet trowel,
And a dry trowel (wetting the trowel not the wall)
Cross (sometimes using my Vallés plastic trowel, not mad on an overly shiny finish)

I think putting on neatly and quickly is the key.

Couldn't agree more though, it's the end product that matters not how you do it. Everybody is different.
 
Jackospread said:
Interesting mate. How does the fat weaken the gypsum? I used to trowel a lot of fat back into my walls n ceilings. I think the main thing is as long as it's flat, smooth, clean crisp corners and tidy.

I put on flat and fill anything out,
second coat,
flatten with refina spat for speed,
wet trowel,
And a dry trowel (wetting the trowel not the wall)
Cross (sometimes using my Vallés plastic trowel, not mad on an overly shiny finish)

I think putting on neatly and quickly is the key.

Couldn't agree more though, it's the end product that matters not how you do it. Everybody is different.
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The fat is plaster that has set and your softening it up again meaning it wont set coz the setting process has already happened once, it will turn back to powder.
 
put your first coat on go over it once with your trowl get most the lines out dont over do it tho .sort your edges out then put your next coat on mate
 
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