Material situation???

Your one of those , I’d call out this government if they stuck 10 k in everyone’s bank acct and the nurses were on 50 k a year , it’s the same old rhetoric from the likes of yous

I say it as I see it. I’ve been a long time conservative voter much to Mrs disgust but I’ve slowly been seeing the bigger picture over the years and now Corbyn is gone and after this debacle I’ll defo be turning to Labour.
 
I know a lad,who is working, because he said he is bored staying at home.wtf.
You generally don't die of boredom.
We all need to make sacrifices at the moment,life is more important than money surely if you have the choice.
Lol what a mad arse! I’m certainly not working because I’m bored!
 
@Nath80 your words
“ It'll be an enormous amount of man power just to go back over 3 previous years and get an average for 5 million people.”
I’m saying the 3 year average will be in the system and doesn’t take a quantum computer to work that out you patronising tit.
 
I say it as I see it. I’ve been a long time conservative voter much to Mrs disgust but I’ve slowly been seeing the bigger picture over the years and now Corbyn is gone and after this debacle I’ll defo be turning to Labour.
They won’t do u any favours believe me !!! I spise at least when u die ur leave ur house to the state cos ur kids won’t see any of it with their inheritance tax policy , nice to know ur still be helping every Tom dick and Harry from the grave , and the kids nothing, fair play mate ur a better man than me :tanguero:
 
... so the wise thing was surely to order the PPE at lease and not let football matches and music concerts and Cheltenham still go ahead.
Everybody and his dog globally tried to buy more PPE and swabs all at the same time. The world's global production simple was not and is not up to it. Shipments being nicked by other's, big countries waving dollars to buy up entire productions, etc etc. Shutdown publically un-enforceable until enough evidence to convince people it was real.
The "Delayed hump" and herd immunity without a vacinne was the only viable option in the Disaster Playbook (in UK public domain in 2017) irrespective of what government was in power, anywhere in Europe. The USA plan was to shut the borders and contain in small areas, and pretend it wasn't happening - see US method for last Ebola outbreak.
 
People on fb paying 20 and 30 quid a bag for gear I assume there using on domestic jobs.What jobs they on to justify paying crazy prices like that.
Also funny how people asking for gear all doing jobs for nhs workers # myarse
 
I’m not a Labour or Tory but any government would struggle at present, you’d think, as they are around the world (apart from Germany). The worry for me is there’s no exit strategy. Very little testing, no vaccine in place, not enough ppe. We’re all going to have to go back to work in the next few weeks with nothing changing. I’m not so bad as I’m on the outsides on new builds so can put in measures in place,but domestic plasterers that work in people’s housing there work will drop off a cliff.
A bit doom gloom that.
 
@Nath80 your words
“ It'll be an enormous amount of man power just to go back over 3 previous years and get an average for 5 million people.”
I’m saying the 3 year average will be in the system and doesn’t take a quantum computer to work that out you patronising tit.
In another thread , @Nath80 said how complex can it be cis every self employed person has a tax return , now he’s saying it’s an enormous amount of man power , just being argumentative like all lefties are:rolleyes:
 
People on fb paying 20 and 30 quid a bag for gear I assume there using on domestic jobs.What jobs they on to justify paying crazy prices like that.
Also funny how people asking for gear all doing jobs for nhs workers # myarse
Are you still paid from the fire service?
 
Yea agree to all that, but where are the government ,could of got hold of or gonna all of a sudden magic 30 million + ppe , every country in the world are scrambling for the same crumbs too. My only criticism of this government is they should of shut down Cheltenham, other than that I’m not sure what more they could of done, hindsight is a wonderful thing
What will they do if new evidence, recommend the general public are to wear masks.they are shitting themselves as ain't enough at moment.
 
@Nath80 your words
“ It'll be an enormous amount of man power just to go back over 3 previous years and get an average for 5 million people.”
I’m saying the 3 year average will be in the system and doesn’t take a quantum computer to work that out you patronising tit.
But its not going to be a press of a button to get an average and then 5 million emails sent out, then for them to transfer 5 million amounts of money to bank accounts they don't have on record. To think it is simply some bloke say there and press a button to magic billions in payment deserved to be patronised.
 
Sites are still going job I’m on they wanted me or one of blokes there this week, we said no as for me and my blokes is the right thing to do, end of the day the government had reports from scientists and uni’s and evidence that this was all coming so the wise thing was surely to order the PPE at lease and not let football matches and music concerts and Cheltenham still go ahead.
Russia closed its borders and anyone arriving had to go into 2 week quarantine, but now they have people dying of it , it’s an impossible task
 
In another thread , @Nath80 said how complex can it be cis every self employed person has a tax return , now he’s saying it’s an enormous amount of man power , just being argumentative like all lefties are:rolleyes:
Man power made me chuckle. One simple algorithm and you’ve got the answers in seconds.
 
Yea agree to all that, but where are the government ,could of got hold of or gonna all of a sudden magic 30 million + ppe , every country in the world are scrambling for the same crumbs too. My only criticism of this government is they should of shut down Cheltenham, other than that I’m not sure what more they could of done, hindsight is a wonderful thing
We had the power of hindsight. We're months behind other countries, we left it to the point of asking Dyson to make ventilators a few weeks ago! There's people using 3d printers in their living rooms to make masks. The government could and should of planned for this
 
They won’t do u any favours believe me !!! I spise at least when u die ur leave ur house to the state cos ur kids won’t see any of it with their inheritance tax policy , nice to know ur still be helping every Tom dick and Harry from the grave , and the kids nothing, fair play mate ur a better man than me :tanguero:

I’ve had rucks with my parents over this over last few years, they are both Conservative voters (reason I was)
If I receive anything from Inheritance I’m lucky as a lot of people don’t and will not I couldn’t Care less I won’t get full amount if it helps other people out,
My kids have Been brought up to know not to be selfish and too help others and they will be the same.
 
In another thread , @Nath80 said how complex can it be cis every self employed person has a tax return , now he’s saying it’s an enormous amount of man power , just being argumentative like all lefties are:rolleyes:
Yes it's easy to get the figures as we've sent them to them. To then process them all is clearly going to take some time considering the workload on the government. To then ask us all if we've worked march April or may and then work that out seems far fetched to me
 
But its not going to be a press of a button to get an average and then 5 million emails sent out, then for them to transfer 5 million amounts of money to bank accounts they don't have on record. To think it is simply some bloke say there and press a button to magic billions in payment deserved to be patronised.
But you stated it being a lot of man power To work the average out. No mention of the following process.
 
I’ve had rucks with my parents over this over last few years, they are both Conservative voters (reason I was)
If I receive anything from Inheritance I’m lucky as a lot of people don’t and will not I couldn’t Care less I won’t get full amount if it helps other people out,
My kids have Been brought up to know not to be selfish and too help others and they will he the same.
Like I say I doff my cap to you , if the world was full of ashleymcduffs what a great place to live !!! But unfortunately it’s not , and my kids inheritance ain’t going to a load of scumbags and illegals
 
Yes it's easy to get the figures as we've sent them to them. To then process them all is clearly going to take some time considering the workload on the government. To then ask us all if we've worked march April or may and then work that out seems far fetched to me
That’s why it’s a complex situation that u poo pooed
 
I’ve had rucks with my parents over this over last few years, they are both Conservative voters (reason I was)
If I receive anything from Inheritance I’m lucky as a lot of people don’t and will not I couldn’t Care less I won’t get full amount if it helps other people out,
My kids have Been brought up to know not to be selfish and too help others and they will be the same.
Id gladly pay another 1/or 2 p in a£ tax if I thought ur mrs would get more wages each week , but yea I’m a scum Tory
 
I’ve had rucks with my parents over this over last few years, they are both Conservative voters (reason I was)
If I receive anything from Inheritance I’m lucky as a lot of people don’t and will not I couldn’t Care less I won’t get full amount if it helps other people out,
My kids have Been brought up to know not to be selfish and too help others and they will be the same.
No point discussing it I don't think mate. Every Tory repeats the exact same stuff, half or more of which simply isn't true, but there's no telling them. One of my mates has 3 kids under 5, voted Tory as "labour would increase his taxes" I pointed out he'd save over 2k a month in childcare with labours policies. Just a blank face in return. They'll vote for who they're told too
 
Yes it's easy to get the figures as we've sent them to them. To then process them all is clearly going to take some time considering the workload on the government. To then ask us all if we've worked march April or may and then work that out seems far fetched to me

HMRC don't work like that as anyone who's dealt with them should know. They'll take an average then send out a demand for whatever they think is the correct figure. HMRC don't have to prove or provide any evidence of what they think you owe. The onus is on you to provide evidence that their calculation is incorrect, and what you actually owe, but again you must be able to prove it. "I wasn't working then, honest." isn't going to work.
 
HMRC don't work like that as anyone who's dealt with them should know. They'll take an average then send out a demand for whatever they think is the correct figure. HMRC don't have to prove or provide any evidence of what they think you owe. The onus is on you to provide evidence that their calculation is incorrect, and what you actually owe, but again you must be able to prove it. "I wasn't working then, honest." isn't going to work.
I would like to think that's correct.dont think anyone should be scamming out of this situation.
 
Id gladly pay another 1/or 2 p in a£ tax if I thought ur mrs would get more wages each week , but yea I’m a scum Tory

Didn’t say you were scum mate only scum are peods, rapists and murderers IMVHO. I’ve voted Tory for 20 years and I just don’t see how i can earn more then double then my Mrs just by spreading s**t up the walls. Just think NHS are under paid and government haven’t done well here, well as well as they should of, should of been better prepared. End of the day we are all humans and some people want what’s best for them and their families and others and some just for themselves and families.
 
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