Selfbuilder in Dorest Tech Question on Plasterboard

[Mouldyoldspudgun]

I think that 15mm Duplex is such an unusual spec that they only make the tapered edge as it can be used for both.
We don't do site work nowadays, just one offs as a rule.

Thanks for that, did stop site work because of health and safety or prices or just thought f**k it? I stopped because of health and safety still do houses but not where they are strict

 

[johniosaif]

We use the Hilti collated gun as recommended by Tony on here.

I have a makita that takes 75mm but it often jammed

 

[Mouldyoldspudgun]

I have a makita that takes 75mm but it often jammed

You can’t beat a hand fed one all that Swart in your fingers you don’t know what you are missing

 

[essexandy]

I have a makita that takes 75mm but it often jammed

We've still got three corded Makita collated guns and yes they do jam from time to time. Not a great problem if you're just doing the odd bit but the Hilti's are different gravy.

 

[zolco]

I'm old enough to remember nailing ceilings up. The top of my head is still flat from that. Absolute bstard of a job.

Out of interest, gentlemen, how many of you use an ordinary screwgun and how many use the belty thing?

Collated pays for itself. Much quicker

 

[Wezly]

You can’t beat a hand fed one all that Swart in your fingers you don’t know what you are missing

Gloves, you’re missing gloves.

 

[TonyM]

Thanks for that, did stop site work because of health and safety or prices or just thought f**k it? I stopped because of health and safety still do houses but not where they are strict

Same here. Can’t be doing with all the H&S b*ll***s. Most of my work is one offs and small developers/builders. Get the rates I want, wear shorts, music blasting out, hi-vis occasionally, and paid promptly. If a few noggins need putting in, I just do it. No running to the site agent crying about stuff, worrying that it’ll cost me a quid or two by doing it. I’ll help load out boards or do it myself if there’s no one about to help.


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[stuart23]

But that’s dry-lining not Plastering

I know but everyone round my way uses tapered on ceilings even when it’s getting plastered. Don’t think it makes any difference if it’s on the wall or the ceiling.

 

[Mouldyoldspudgun]

I know but everyone round my way uses tapered on ceilings even when it’s getting plastered. Don’t think it makes any difference if it’s on the wall or the ceiling.

No it doesn’t apart from if it goes in your eye while doing the tapered edges

 

[Mouldyoldspudgun]

Gloves, you’re missing gloves.

I don’t wear gloves, you have to be kidding, do you have to wear gloves on site?

 

[essexandy]

I don’t wear gloves, you have to be kidding, do you have to wear gloves on site?

Apparently some sites do insist on them.

 

[Mouldyoldspudgun]

Apparently some sites do insist on them.

So now they take away your sense of touch under the guise of safety, how dangerous is that?

 

[Dansouthcoast84]

So now they take away your sense of touch under the guise of safety, how dangerous is that?

few sites i go on its hats boots vis goggles gloves cscs and asbestos aswerness...

 

[Mouldyoldspudgun]

few sites i go on its hats boots vis goggles gloves cscs and asbestos aswerness...

f**k that s**t I would have to tell them to f**k off and walk away

 

[Graham Huggett]

Thanks all.
I think you have all exhausted that topic.
I conclude 12.5mm square edge is acceptable, with no gaps, screwed into noggins or joists every 6" with 38mm screws that penetrate the paper but not the board.
I can now start to put some up with confidence.

PS As a serious self builder you must have the right tools all part of my budget.
For this job I have a lifter and collated drill.
All to be sold on when I move in!!!!!.

 

[Stevieo]

Thanks all.
I think you have all exhausted that topic.
I conclude 12.5mm square edge is acceptable, with no gaps, screwed into noggins or joists every 6" with 38mm screws that penetrate the paper but not the board.
I can now start to put some up with confidence.

PS As a serious self builder you must have the right tools all part of my budget.
For this job I have a lifter and collated drill.
All to be sold on when I move in!!!!!.

Wotchoo know of dabbing?

 

[essexandy]

Thanks all.
I think you have all exhausted that topic.
I conclude 12.5mm square edge is acceptable, with no gaps, screwed into noggins or joists every 6" with 38mm screws that penetrate the paper but not the board.
I can now start to put some up with confidence.

PS As a serious self builder you must have the right tools all part of my budget.
For this job I have a lifter and collated drill.
All to be sold on when I move in!!!!!.

One word of warning; if you have bought one of the cheap Chinese made board lifters be very careful.
They have a habit of not lasting too long sometimes and when they 'go' it's quite frightening.
If you've bought a quality one then they're worth their weight in gold.

 

[Mouldyoldspudgun]

One word of warning; if you have bought one of the cheap Chinese made board lifters be very careful.
They have a habit of not lasting too long sometimes and when they 'go' it's quite frightening.
If you've bought a quality one then they're worth their weight in gold.

I just use my son and a couple of roof batten dead men

 

[Mouldyoldspudgun]

Thanks all.
I think you have all exhausted that topic.
I conclude 12.5mm square edge is acceptable, with no gaps, screwed into noggins or joists every 6" with 38mm screws that penetrate the paper but not the board.
I can now start to put some up with confidence.

PS As a serious self builder you must have the right tools all part of my budget.
For this job I have a lifter and collated drill.
All to be sold on when I move in!!!!!.

Don’t forget to stagger the joints and board across the joists

 

[essexandy]

I just use my son and a couple of roof batten dead men

We bought a really good quality board lifter, it's the only thing that keeps me being able to tack. Unbeatable on high ceilings.

 

[Mouldyoldspudgun]

We bought a really good quality board lifter, it's the only thing that keeps me being able to tack. Unbeatable on high ceilings.

I have been looking and seen them for about eight hundred but that’s a all singing all dancing one, refina just take the piss but to be honest when the boy throws them around like he should do at his age I don’t want to deprive him of the fun and experience

 

[essexandy]

I have been looking and seen them for about eight hundred but that’s a all singing all dancing one, refina just take the piss but to be honest when the boy throws them around like he should do at his age I don’t want to deprive him of the fun and experience

Yeah we bought one that Refina used to sell, I don't think they do now, we didn't buy it through them though. It's worth the £800 to us.

 

[Mouldyoldspudgun]

Yeah we bought one that Refina used to sell, I don't think they do now, we didn't buy it through them though. It's worth the £800 to us.

To be serious it would be to us too, I may have to splash some shekels out on one, I think refina want 1200 quid now and I know you can get similar for eight hundred and just as good if not better quality

 

[theshed]

Into timber joists its 6 screws per joist. Screws 20mm longer than plasterboard being used.

 

[theshed]

I have a makita that takes 75mm but it often jammed

Just change the little gate on the front and it will work like new. It cost a tenner on ebay. The part with the metal swing gates.

 

[Mouldyoldspudgun]

Into timber joists its 6 screws per joist. Screws 20mm longer than plasterboard being used.

He is right you know, I just dusted my white book off and it says the same though it does say 25 mm into wooden joist making it a 38 mil screw

 

[malc]

we use collated screw guns, with course thread screws for timber, fine thread screws for metal stud.

 

[Wezly]

I don’t wear gloves, you have to be kidding, do you have to wear gloves on site?

I wear gloves when tacking and rendering.

 

[Mouldyoldspudgun]

I wear gloves when tacking and rendering.

You can’t say things like that and still hold your head up high

 

[Wezly]

You can’t say things like that and still hold your head up high

Why is that?

 

[Mouldyoldspudgun]

Why is that?

It’s tantamount to saying you use hand cream when you get home

 

[essexandy]

I wear gloves when tacking and rendering.

I always wear them when I'm sticking and sometimes when skimming.
I'll hang my head in shame Mouldy.
Oh and definitely when I'm screeding.

 

[Wezly]

It’s tantamount to saying you use hand cream when you get home

Nah, hand cream is for women and the gays.

 

[Mouldyoldspudgun]

I always wear them when I'm sticking and sometimes when skimming.
I'll hang my head in shame Mouldy.
Oh and definitely when I'm screeding.

f**k it I forgot about screeding I better shut up now b*ll***s

 

[Dansouthcoast84]

I wear gloves when tacking and rendering.

i wear.gloves when rendering.