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i had my first go on the old speed skim today. i have a s*p*r*lex and like it and it has certain uses. the speedskim however. i really cant see the point of it. all i can see that its good for is flattening the first coat. i found it wasnt neat enough for flattening the 2nd coat. you cant trowel with it. its awkward on lids. it digs in. there is no way it would rule backing coats as suggested. there is no way it would increase productivity. it may be ok for closing in mono. other than that i fail to see the point. it does nothing that a trowel wont do, except it doesnt do it as well. sorry to be critical but thats how i see it
 
i was thinkin of trying to cut the corners on mine, im not to sure about the speedskim at the moment, i tried it and found alot of the same things as you did nick then ended up goin over it again with my trowel anyway so pointless, but i want to give it a chance, just not too sure really i dnt think it will work out
 
nickelarse said:
i had my first go on the old speed skim today. i have a s*p*r*lex and like it and it has certain uses. the speedskim however. i really cant see the point of it. all i can see that its good for is flattening the first coat. i found it wasnt neat enough for flattening the 2nd coat. you cant trowel with it. its awkward on lids. it digs in. there is no way it would rule backing coats as suggested. there is no way it would increase productivity. it may be ok for closing in mono. other than that i fail to see the point. it does nothing that a trowel wont do, except it doesnt do it as well. sorry to be critical but thats how i see it
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Agreed 100%! Certainly not revolutionary!!!
 
nickelarse said:
i had my first go on the old speed skim today. i have a s*p*r*lex and like it and it has certain uses. the speedskim however. i really cant see the point of it. all i can see that its good for is flattening the first coat. i found it wasnt neat enough for flattening the 2nd coat. you cant trowel with it. its awkward on lids. it digs in. there is no way it would rule backing coats as suggested. there is no way it would increase productivity. it may be ok for closing in mono. other than that i fail to see the point. it does nothing that a trowel wont do, except it doesnt do it as well. sorry to be critical but thats how i see it
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well i think thats made my mind up Nick ,, do you think you,ll keep on useing it
 
no.

without sounding like i am being overly critical, i do very much appreciate the fact that i was sent a free speedskim, and full respect for trying to make the trade easier, but i do have an issue with some of the things that are posted on the website with regards to what this tool does. if speedskim or for that matter anybody can show us a video and explain how this tool that only initially flattens finish can increase output by 100%, and on large areas 200% then it would be much appreciated. bearing in mind that if the average spread puts on 30m a hit, then according to this if you flatten with a speedskim then you can now put on 60m a hit, and even 90m if your on large areas.
 
nickelarse said:
no.

without sounding like i am being overly critical, i do very much appreciate the fact that i was sent a free speedskim, and full respect for trying to make the trade easier, but i do have an issue with some of the things that are posted on the website with regards to what this tool does. if speedskim or for that matter anybody can show us a video and explain how this tool that only initially flattens finish can increase output by 100%, and on large areas 200% then it would be much appreciated. bearing in mind that if the average spread puts on 30m a hit, then according to this if you flatten with a speedskim then you can now put on 60m a hit, and even 90m if your on large areas.
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i don,t think they,ve done their selves any favours with that video ,, if they,d come across and said it brilliant for flattning before laying in no prob ,, but to do a job that does same as a trowel that takes at least 6 months to wear in ,,it,ll never happen brother ,, :RpS_mellow:
 
nickelarse said:
i had my first go on the old speed skim today. i have a s*p*r*lex and like it and it has certain uses. the speedskim however. i really cant see the point of it. all i can see that its good for is flattening the first coat. i found it wasnt neat enough for flattening the 2nd coat. you cant trowel with it. its awkward on lids. it digs in. there is no way it would rule backing coats as suggested. there is no way it would increase productivity. it may be ok for closing in mono. other than that i fail to see the point. it does nothing that a trowel wont do, except it doesnt do it as well. sorry to be critical but thats how i see it
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r u using a macine to apply the finish i was wonderin y ur flattenin the first coat as its somthin ive never done
 
At long last some honesty, well done Nick. I couldn't quite understand why Danny asked people to keep stum about these just because the makers wanted it that way. The strength of this forum is that it is by plasterers for plasterers not for the tool makers and material suppliers to dictate what can be said and when, even if they are giving out freebies.
 
essexandy said:
At long last some honesty, well done Nick. I couldn't quite understand why Danny asked people to keep stum about these just because the makers wanted it that way. The strength of this forum is that it is by plasterers for plasterers not for the tool makers and material suppliers to dictate what can be said and when, even if they are giving out freebies.
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He didnt ask people to keep stum coz the makers wanted it that way, he wanted people to keep there reviews until the product had been launched.
The forum is run by plasterers for plasterers but tool makers and suppliers are on board aswell and sponser the site. So lets say you sponsered the site but you wasnt gonna be set up till march would you want to be giving out your details to everyone if you wasnt gonna be around to take the calls? Exactly.
There is always gonna be honesty about tools, courses and materials, there is no two ways about it.
 
CKJ said:
r u using a macine to apply the finish i was wonderin y ur flattenin the first coat as its somthin ive never done
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by hand. i was sent a free one. i dont usually flatten first coat unless im putting a lot on. i used it on first and second coat for flattening
 
henry said:
I am from Grimsby all my uncles and some brothers all went to sea I often went on a pleasure trip happy days.
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we complain we,ve got siht end of stick Henry ,, i take me hat off t,ya uncles n brothers ,, now thats wot ya call a tough job ,, we,d be lost weeart em brother :RpS_thumbup:
 
I was ask to keep shtum until the site was ready to launch it...

no point sending people to a site that is not ready yet...
 
flynnyman said:
He didnt ask people to keep stum coz the makers wanted it that way, he wanted people to keep there reviews until the product had been launched.
The forum is run by plasterers for plasterers but tool makers and suppliers are on board aswell and sponser the site. So lets say you sponsered the site but you wasnt gonna be set up till march would you want to be giving out your details to everyone if you wasnt gonna be around to take the calls? Exactly.
There is always gonna be honesty about tools, courses and materials, there is no two ways about it.
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So if they want to keep quiet about it why are there youtube clips out there advertising it? Because they don't want any reviews saying it's s**t before loads of them have been ordered?
 
essexandy said:
So if they want to keep quiet about it why are there youtube clips out there advertising it? Because they don't want any reviews saying it's s**t before loads of them have been ordered?
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Yeh thats right andy they are gonna make a tool, spend a fortune patenting it make a website just to rip people off give your head a shake they were giving them out for free the other week.
 
bubbles65 said:
speaking of which - is your mucking fugs site running yet Danny?
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I have had my first 2 orders so I have not actually built the site yet :-)

I have some forum mugs ready to shift when the postage boxes arrive :-) All profits for forum mugs will be going to Help for Heroes by the way :-)
 
flynnyman said:
Yeh thats right andy they are gonna make a tool, spend a fortune patenting it make a website just to rip people off give your head a shake they were giving them out for free the other week.
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well according to what this tool does in its description, to what it actually does, then yes they have done just that
 
This has all got a bit silly, maybe they need to re word there website. No it won't make you be able to lay on more but it will be quicker for flattening of then with a 11" trowel. Everyone seems dead against these just because they have made a silly mistake in the marketing.

To my understanding the product is not released yet, the website not finalised etc so surley they are looking for or feedback as to whats good and not so they can change things.

Take the 200% thing of the site speedskim.

The tool is not crap though, needs its edges rounded of or it does like to dig in. It needs a handle for ceilings but is nice on walls. You are never going to pick it up any tool and be able to use it to its 100% usefulness on the first day. It takes time to understand and learn a new product.

These guys are plasterers and thought i was worth all the bother of making these things so they must feel they have some value.
 
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Danny said:
Andy have you actually used it yet?

If not then dont comment on something you know nothing about....
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Sorry Danny I'd missed the new forum rule of "not commenting on something you know nothing about", it's going to be awfully quiet on here in future but I for one will do as you ask.
 
I bought mine and well pleased.
the old saying " When something is for nothing it is worthless"
 
Yer a bit like a new trowel.

Imagine if marshall town sent out free samples, everyone would say they were s**t
 
i took the corners off my one today doesnt dig in now but not quite perfected useing it yet so im not finding it quicker but ill crack on with it, a handel/pole for ceilins is a good idea as its a bitch to use on ceilings.
one thing ive been finding slowing me down with it is after ive laid on i cut edges back with small tool and cut boxes out but the speed skim doesnt fill in the small voids cutting back will leave so you then have to do all the edges with the trowel and it just doesnt work out quicker, am i missing a trick here??
this isnt a negative review on the tool as i dnt actually mind is as i said im still working it out, has anybody worked out how to over come this cutting back and dragging sheite problem?? if so give us a clue please:RpS_wub:
 
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