Suppose you want paying then?

Don't think people grasp the regional part here. I could go down London and earn alot more but i.m happy doing and getting what i want locally. Turn up with trowel crack on f**k off. Though if I price a job up for my sen i have noticed theres a bit more to have lately .
But look at it like this few years back and I know it's gone up now bit in village i could go out with wife for Sunday at session have 5 pints each and a bag of pork scratching and I only ever took 20 pound note out
 
The point that @lurpack doesnt realise and what i find insulted by is that i also price at a level where i push the price to the point of tipping point at loosing work for being to expensive for my area.

It just so happens that our region is historicaly low wages in addition to historicaly having also alot of plasterers as there is some big dry lining outfits in the area.

All of this affects the price even sparkys and plumbers, joiners etc could only dream of those rates up here.

Hes calling me out, yet if you could clear 400 labour on that same job up here you would be classed as expensive, as for 650 you simply could never ever hit that price point.
 
650 was an example. If wasn’t artex simple glue and skim it’s even better 500 and do it in a day.

There isn’t set prices in set areas on domestic work. Obviously you can’t get London prices in Doncaster, I’m not disputing that but what I am disputing is £300 to skim a full living room with artex ceiling is too cheap even for donny.


From what you’ve said zombie.. working 7 days a week some weeks.. 30 grand a month running through your business.. now sounds like a good time to change accordingly.


I honestly can’t be bothered with this debate as it’s impossible for some people to understand. You’re your own worst enemy.
 
lurpak said:
650 was an example. If wasn’t artex simple glue and skim it’s even better 500 and do it in a day.

There isn’t set prices in set areas on domestic work. Obviously you can’t get London prices in Doncaster, I’m not disputing that but what I am disputing is £300 to skim a full living room with artex ceiling is too cheap even for donny.


From what you’ve said zombie.. working 7 days a week some weeks.. 30 grand a month running through your business.. now sounds like a good time to change accordingly.


I honestly can’t be bothered with this debate as it’s impossible for some people to understand. You’re your own worst enemy.
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Once again you just dont get it. And as it happens we rarley work on small jobs like that for exact reasons discussed.

We can and do make much more money by doing other aspects of the trade as skimming alone has always been a saturated market up here.
 
Ok. Cba with this s**t really can’t. If u muppets wanna be dead at 55 still with a mortgage then good luck to u
 
100% with @zombie

There is NO WAY you can earn more than the market dictates.
If you try and charge more than 400 for a room round here then 9 times out of 10 you wont get it.

There are exceptions yes but very rare.
 
And you deserve that peasent money because you are the ones who created it.

Simple terms for you to understand

Let’s say (for a simple example) there’s 10 spreads in donny

Mrs Jones wants living room artex ceiling done and all walls done.

She gets 3 quotes. All quotes are 500+

Do you think everyone will stop having plastering done?

No they won’t. They will accept that’s the going rate and pay it!

But because people like zombie coming in at 300.. people trying to compete with him

So Mrs Jones is lauging her head off
 
lurpak said:
And you deserve that peasent money because you are the ones who created it.

Simple terms for you to understand

Let’s say (for a simple example) there’s 10 spreads in donny

Mrs Jones wants living room artex ceiling done and all walls done.

She gets 3 quotes. All quotes are 500+

Do you think everyone will stop having plastering done?

No they won’t. They will accept that’s the going rate and pay it!

But because people like zombie coming in at 300.. people trying to compete with him
That's the problem . Everyone aint gonna price same thats why people get a few quotes
So Mrs Jones is lauging her head off
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lurpak said:
And you deserve that peasent money because you are the ones who created it.

Simple terms for you to understand

Let’s say (for a simple example) there’s 10 spreads in donny

Mrs Jones wants living room artex ceiling done and all walls done.

She gets 3 quotes. All quotes are 500+

Do you think everyone will stop having plastering done?

No they won’t. They will accept that’s the going rate and pay it!

But because people like zombie coming in at 300.. people trying to compete with him

So Mrs Jones is lauging her head off
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No mate you dont understand.
We aren't knuckle dragging numbskulls just blundering in here.
We know the market. There is a tipping point. I price right at the top of that tipping point.
There will ALWAYS be the undercutters but me and I bet @zombie aren't them.
 
You have to ask yourself why site skimmers there get same as here. Because that’s the price either do it or f**k off.

Yet domestic living room are half price there.

That’s what happens when numptys like you are left to price s**t up. Too cheap.
 
lurpak said:
You have to ask yourself why site skimmers there get same as here. Because that’s the price either do it or f**k off.

Yet domestic living room are half price there.

That’s what happens when numptys like you are left to price s**t up. Too cheap.
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I agree 100% too cheap.
However you seem to not understand market forces.

Numptys a bit strong you nob.
 
CeeVee said:
I agree 100% too cheap.
However you seem to not understand market forces.

Numptys a bit strong you nob.
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Sorry.
I’m literally here thinking some poor c**t doing room like this for 300 is degrading
 

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Just want to chip in.. I'm West Sussex (Gatwick) and would be around £500 for decent living room, two days work. Definitely wouldn't get £700+ unless it was awqward with 3m ceilings, 10 windows, arches etc/ but standard 4x4 living room around £450-500 and I'm not cheap either.
 
McBentLegs said:
Just want to chip in.. I'm West Sussex (Gatwick) and would be around £500 for decent living room, two days work. Definitely wouldn't get £700+ unless it was awqward with 3m ceilings, 10 windows, arches etc/ but standard 4x4 living room around £450-500 and I'm not cheap either.
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700 was with materials and a messy one. I agree with them prices

Only one I’m disagreeing with is zombie doing it for 300

And looks like everyone else agrees too
 
John j said:
Don't think people grasp the regional part here. I could go down London and earn alot more but i.m happy doing and getting what i want locally. Turn up with trowel crack on f**k off. Though if I price a job up for my sen i have noticed theres a bit more to have lately .
But look at it like this few years back and I know it's gone up now bit in village i could go out with wife for Sunday at session have 5 pints each and a bag of pork scratching and I only ever took 20 pound note out
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You could... but the s**t that you have to put up with in London is just horrible. Hardly anyone is white, hardly anyone speaks English, you can't get about, prices are horrendous. Look what living in London has done to @Andy g - the man's a gibbering wreck.
 
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Stevieo said:
You could... but the s**t that you have to put up with in London is just horrible. Hardly anyone is white, hardly anyone speaks English, you can't get about, prices are horrendous. Look what living in London has done to @Andy g - the man's a gibbering wreck.
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Wouldn't work in London for £400 a day, I hate the place and the people.
 
My price is everything . Floor protected etc . I think that’s fair.

LivIng room labour range from 5 to 7 labour depends on size and work etc

This whole mess was because zombie said he would do it for 300.

If a newcomer come on and said he skims living rooms with artex ceilings for 300 he would be tore a new one
 
@lurpack you realy jyst dont get it
lurpak said:
700 was with materials and a messy one. I agree with them prices

Only one I’m disagreeing with is zombie doing it for 300

And looks like everyone else agrees too
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Again your wrong.

Ive taggedd the 4 people that are relevent for our area there opinion as we are in the same catchment give or take.

We have all said we would do well to achieve 400 labour with many around here knocking it out at 300 labour scaringly there would be some even less make of that what you will.

Ive been supply & fit 20+ years trust me in know the pricing for my area.

You have had the 4 people all back up my comments so why am i still wrong?

I havent once commented on your area pricing being wrong other than to say i wish we coukd achieve that!

@CeeVee please help me out im finished on this one!
 
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