When is the right time to break away?

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In what way?

Its just the way your going about it.The way you say you have been buying all the tools, and when you leave his van will be empty.Also introducing him to 'new' tools.It sounds like he is not interested in the job anymore, and just going through the motions.

I can understand your respect to your 'boss' but i feel your a bit resentful to the way he runs things.You said yourself he would rather be at home than working.

At the end of the day he didn't force the trowel into your hands and push your arm up the wall.You done all that out of your own volition, and interest in the job itself, so you owe him nothing.It sounds like you gave a lot more than he did or is prepared to do.

I have a feeling that any new work you find yourself, and bring him in on will only cause more resentment.Are you going to be able to take the lead and say how its going to be set up etc ?.I suppose it depends on the type of guy he is, but i dont know many who would climb down like that and let an improver tell the boss which way the job is going to be done.

If your confident of finding enough work, i think a clean break on good terms is best.
 
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Its just the way your going about it.The way you say you have been buying all the tools, and when you leave his van will be empty.Also introducing him to 'new' tools.It sounds like he is not interested in the job anymore, and just going through the motions.

I have been buying the tools, he never had or knew about spatula's, speedskims etc. Not that that is a bad thing he is an old school spread. When I showed an interest in learning the trade I joined these forums & researched the 'modern' ways.

I can understand your respect to your 'boss' but i feel your a bit resentful to the way he runs things.You said yourself he would rather be at home than working.

I have a great deal of respect for my Boss, he helped me when I needed a little help, how many people do you meet in your lifetime willing to do this? Not many!

At the end of the day he didn't force the trowel into your hands and push your arm up the wall.You done all that out of your own volition, and interest in the job itself, so you owe him nothing.It sounds like you gave a lot more than he did or is prepared to do.

No he didn't force me to learn in any way, indeed the contrary was true, I think he only ever wanted me to be a 'labourer', but sadly being an 'interested' person labouring was never going to be enough for me. I really struggled also with standing-back and watching him sweat all day!
Never has he instructed me in the learning process, everything I have learned is through watching him, am I doing this the 'right' way?
As mentioned above, he has been doing this for a lot of years, yes he has lost interest but doesn't everyone get a little bored of what they do day-in day-out, I cannot fault him for this.
I do owe him something, I have a debt of gratitude!

I have a feeling that any new work you find yourself, and bring him in on will only cause more resentment.Are you going to be able to take the lead and say how its going to be set up etc ?.I suppose it depends on the type of guy he is, but i dont know many who would climb down like that and let an improver tell the boss which way the job is going to be done.

If your confident of finding enough work, i think a clean break on good terms is best.

I sadly agree with you here.
 
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