addiction cost me everything

Imagine if we were all in parliament, would every "serious " discussion end up with wank/room/socks?.lol. Be funny seeing the news reporters outside Westminster blathering on about migrant crisis then wank socks!!!!pmsl
 
sponker said:
Thanks for the support. Am the first to admit I can be an arsehole but thought it might make some of you think twice thats all.I hope you dont go though it mate but your welcome to your opinion. I hope you dont see your missus shacked up with a young black lad one day who you know nothing about! Yes its down to me in the end but I cant control the urge, in fact last night after work put 500 on over 5 yellow cards in the Liverpool game, thought it was a cert and only two. Gutted. Ive worked the last couple of days for nothing but at least I didnt have a drink or a line. Yeas it's Lydiate near Ormskirk but am in grahame park in london atm for the forseeable.
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I'm always here to support fellow members and non members alike,
There in lies the problem because you can control the urge you just choose not to.

No betting is a cert.
 
gps said:
I'm always here to support fellow members and non members alike,
There in lies the problem because you can control the urge you just choose not to.

No betting is a cert.
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Sponker. I know exactly where you're coming from. Ignore comments from the likes of gps , I've heard it all before, even from my parents. They do not understand because they all lucky enough not to be born with this type of wiring. Pug has it bang on, we all try this s**t, some can stop and regulate and some, like us just keep going to destruction. The wiring is not your fault, but it is your responsibility to seek outside help. Get to NA and GA meetings. When you're in there you'll hear all sorts of weird stuff about spiritual programs, but don't question it, just go with it and do what they say. All my life I've gone against the grain, but for once I gave in and just followed, it worked and it's so nice to wake up with a clear head. That in itself is an addiction, but a good one.
 
TonyM said:
I have no time for addicts, whatever they are addicted to. A sign of weakness. f**k'em!


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You don't know what that person has been through to become an addict.
You seem very small minded tonym!
You have to see things from other people's point of view
 
Squarehead said:
Sponker. I know exactly where you're coming from. Ignore comments from the likes of gps , I've heard it all before, even from my parents. They do not understand because they all lucky enough not to be born with this type of wiring. Pug has it bang on, we all try this s**t, some can stop and regulate and some, like us just keep going to destruction. The wiring is not your fault, but it is your responsibility to seek outside help. Get to NA and GA meetings. When you're in there you'll hear all sorts of weird stuff about spiritual programs, but don't question it, just go with it and do what they say. All my life I've gone against the grain, but for once I gave in and just followed, it worked and it's so nice to wake up with a clear head. That in itself is an addiction, but a good one.
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Let's look at this snivelling excuse of wiring you give, you must be at one with paedophiles because they use this very same excuse, there should be an island where all you monsters can go and get on with it
 
Addiction is an illness.
Regardless of what you're addiction is to, drugs, legal or otherwise, alcohol, food, gambling...
Some people can do these things without any problems, just recreational use. But others can't.
I'm sure 'tough love' at certain times, helps certain people as part of their recovery, but surely everyone deserves compassion, understanding and to be treated with respect.
Walk a mile in their shoes.....
Just my opinion on it...

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Pug said:
Be careful who you lump in with nonces you c**t. You stepped over the line with that comment.
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Yes, he should retract that and quick. Despicable thing to say. I was hoping it was just the drink speaking last night, I guess not.
 
Squarehead said:
Yes, he should retract that and quick. Despicable thing to say. I was hoping it was just the drink speaking last night, I guess not.
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So paedophiles don't use wiring as an accuse then ? If it's ok for you to use it then by the same token they must be able to.
 
gps said:
So paedophiles don't use wiring as an accuse then ? If it's ok for you to use it then by the same token they must be able to.
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No, because addicts in terms of substance misuse abuse themselves not others. There's a grave difference.
 
Part of the recovery program at AA, steps 8 and 9 are to make amends for the suffering you have caused. Accepting responsibility for your actions, this is not making excuses, it's the opposite, but science is science and addiction is real. My old man gave me a rough childhood because of drink, I stopped to break the link and free my kids of that negative upbringing. Yes at some stage your actions can't be excused, otherwise we'd be saying Hitler can be a excused because of his wiring which is utterly ridiculous.
 
Only one person can decide if they want help or need it, you go in any pub on a Friday or Saturday and you will see loads of people on the beer and gear it's epidemic now and wildly available in reach of anyone your your own person so you have a choice we ain't kids are we you can't blame others can only blame yourself anyway off to football with my boy laters
 
I think the label of addiction gets used too much. If people can quits all these vices then I'm not sure addicted is a helpful term
 
Squarehead said:
Part of the recovery program at AA, steps 8 and 9 are to make amends for the suffering you have caused. Accepting responsibility for your actions, this is not making excuses, it's the opposite, but science is science and addiction is real. My old man gave me a rough childhood because of drink, I stopped to break the link and free my kids of that negative upbringing. Yes at some stage your actions can't be excused, otherwise we'd be saying Hitler can be a excused because of his wiring which is utterly ridiculous.
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Was he an electrician? ?
 
I need to kick the booze and no joke before you all start. It only gets me into trouble and im too old for that s**t ffs so i made an appointment to see my local aa place as i cant just have 1 or 2 i have to have it all but never get hangovers etc never missed work over it but if i carry on i will lose mrs marshy etc and i dont want that!!! Its not like i need a drink to be sociable etc i talk to anybody all the time. End of the day i dont need to change, i WANT to change thats the difference
 
Well this has been the funniest thread in a long time. @gps I agree with sum of what you say and sum of what @Squarehead says. I spat my tea out at the paedophile comment. But at the end of the day we all see the world differently. Like when I see a junkie on heroin. All I think is send that c**t to the vet and put it down. Sounds bad I know but just been honest. I don't think that's someone's mum dad son sister. Maybe I should but I don't. Don't take me worng I'd help anybody I know if they asked for it. And have. But when I see the junkies walking around the streets it just truns my stomach.
 
Pug said:
Then you're cleverer and better informed than every doctor and health care specialist that works with addicts. Prick.
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Look @Squarehead can't say its because of the way people are wired as an excuse for addiction because paedophiles use that very same excuse so if it's an acceptable excuse for one then that has to carry on to the other.
Btw way is every doctor and health care worker in agreement with the way addicts are treated ? I'd suggest not. Prick
 
theclemo said:
Well this has been the funniest thread in a long time. @gps I agree with sum of what you say and sum of what @Squarehead says. I spat my tea out at the paedophile comment. But at the end of the day we all see the world differently. Like when I see a junkie on heroin. All I think is send that c**t to the vet and put it down. Sounds bad I know but just been honest. I don't think that's someone's mum dad son sister. Maybe I should but I don't. Don't take me worng I'd help anybody I know if they asked for it. And have. But when I see the junkies walking around the streets it just truns my stomach.
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on the plus side though I reckon the smack heads could manage to stick the straw in a Capri-sun at the first try.
takes me ages o_O
 
theclemo said:
Well this has been the funniest thread in a long time. @gps I agree with sum of what you say and sum of what @Squarehead says. I spat my tea out at the paedophile comment. But at the end of the day we all see the world differently. Like when I see a junkie on heroin. All I think is send that c**t to the vet and put it down. Sounds bad I know but just been honest. I don't think that's someone's mum dad son sister. Maybe I should but I don't. Don't take me worng I'd help anybody I know if they asked for it. And have. But when I see the junkies walking around the streets it just truns my stomach.
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I think you sum up what a lot of think here. However, I for one am not an addictive personality, so I really don't know how bad it can be. I don't know whether tough love helps, or whether these people are spiralling into oblivion regardless. I do know that I would rather not be involved (I feel shameful, but it's the truth). I also know that selfishly I would like to live in a society that wasn't poluted by drunks and junkies, but then maybe so would they. I have no real answers.
 
Marshy said:
I need to kick the booze and no joke before you all start. It only gets me into trouble and im too old for that s**t ffs so i made an appointment to see my local aa place as i cant just have 1 or 2 i have to have it all but never get hangovers etc never missed work over it but if i carry on i will lose mrs marshy etc and i dont want that!!! Its not like i need a drink to be sociable etc i talk to anybody all the time. End of the day i dont need to change, i WANT to change thats the difference
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Definition of an alcoholic is when you take one drink you cannot stop. My dad on a Sunday would have 4 pints after football in the clubhouse, back home and 3 bottles of red over the rest of the day. Funnily enough he's not an alcoholic because he could stop after that much. He's termed as a heavy drinker. I drink until I pass out. I literally cannot stop, so I went to AA. There you sort your whole life, not just the drink. Anger, greed, procrstination, envy etc.i was a functioning alcoholic too, you'll meet two types in there, those that binge (me) and those that top up thru the day. Some have lost everything and some that are about to. You will find loads of other blokes in the same boat and you will make friends like you've never had before.
 
Anyone got any other addiction? This forum, or Facebook, or porno? I'm addicted to green rooster chili sauce. Have it on everything.
 
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