Thanks unifinish For costing me

Here's a palm tree:descansando:
Thanks unifinish For costing me
 
Time to get out of bed. And go collecting money. Hope some of it is cash so Mr tax man can go f**k himself.
 
Cornelius said:
Exactly I thought they would get a couple of complimentary bags sent out, I was wrong. In fact they kind of patronised me in a way of course I've got the intelligence to order a full pallet from a merchants if I wanted a full pallet. I don't need some office based worker to tell me that. I'm in the trade I understand how to order materials. Never mind.
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Hi Cornelius – sorry you didn’t get any joy from the merchant on UniFinish. I am happy to let you have a couple of free bags if you would remind us of your contact number and which branch of Travis Perkins you deal with so we can make sure you get them easily. We will also have another chat with them to help you get hold of it. Thanks.
 
BritishGypsum said:
Hi hstoke, sorry to hear you have had a problem. We will contact you today and start investigation into what’s happened and hopefully we can resolve quickly.
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I have taped the area off for you, I was on scene at five this morning so there is no cross contamination :) but hurry up and get down here I've noticed @Vincey floating about with some multie ;)
 
BritishGypsum said:
Hi Cornelius – sorry you didn’t get any joy from the merchant on UniFinish. I am happy to let you have a couple of free bags if you would remind us of your contact number and which branch of Travis Perkins you deal with so we can make sure you get them easily. We will also have another chat with them to help you get hold of it. Thanks.
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Ok ive just send you a message (y)
 
Dropsalot said:
I'm wondering what the failure rate actually is? I've seen several of@vincey's posts showing this and that using unifinish,and the there's the YouTube stuff...but no disasters such as this.
My point is really that the boffins at bg must have done tests etc .....nothing is 100% perfect, so what is the expected/allowed failure rate?
If you spend good money on say, a spirit level...it says "accurate to blah blah + or - so many mm over so many metres"... you pay yer money and take your chance. Is there such info on uni? Is it in the white book?

In any case I expect the client will want it re-done. And if it were me I'd go for multi over glue.
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In any of my post of using and testing I always gave as much info as possible, testing in my area was over around 10-12 months pre release since then used over 2500 bags (stopped counting tbh) in testing period every surface I had was used on all my own jobs, also had jobs to use on choice by Bg, to best of my knowledge this was carried out over all parts of the u.k with other spreads. All my testing period jobs were either recorded by myself and reported back to them or by themselves , in terms of any failure on adhesion I not had one and still not to this day which is why I do have confidence in it, also the knowledge that if I ever did or was in the future that Bg would and will look into any if there ever was or is.
Which can't be said for any of the other bonding agents makers mentioned in this thread.
Do hope @hstoke gets this job resolved with them and tbh was very surprised to see it, in all the time on forum since release of mark 2 think I only ever seen 2 that have come away from the surface being used on and would always contact them if it ever happened.
 
theclemo said:
I pva 2 ceilings b4 skimmed them went home. Went back to render the back of the job. Walked in to the house and the skim was on the floor lol
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To be fair not knocking uni as it could be anything, but thinking back in 13 years pva hasn't failed me with multi. Always on wet/tacky .... not dry. Only failures on skim I've had is because of the background..... distemper being the only culprit I remember.

Render on the other hand just does what it wants sometimes
 
gps said:
Not had one (that I'm aware of) pva and multi/board finish fail in my 20 years.
I've had issues with distemper usually as I'm skimming it though lol
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any building pre 1960 will have distemper / lime wash.
 
i would not skim fan pattern artex, either pva and a tight coat of bonding then muti. or better still overboard.
i have seen plaster shrink back and you can see small areas of the fan pattern through the skim.
 
Vincey said:
In any of my post of using and testing I always gave as much info as possible, testing in my area was over around 10-12 months pre release since then used over 2500 bags (stopped counting tbh) in testing period every surface I had was used on all my own jobs, also had jobs to use on choice by Bg, to best of my knowledge this was carried out over all parts of the u.k with other spreads. All my testing period jobs were either recorded by myself and reported back to them or by themselves , in terms of any failure on adhesion I not had one and still not to this day which is why I do have confidence in it, also the knowledge that if I ever did or was in the future that Bg would and will look into any if there ever was or is.
Which can't be said for any of the other bonding agents makers mentioned in this thread.
Do hope @hstoke gets this job resolved with them and tbh was very surprised to see it, in all the time on forum since release of mark 2 think I only ever seen 2 that have come away from the surface being used on and would always contact them if it ever happened.
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2500 bags have you been using it as a backing coat didn't know you could do that
 
I've got some uni finish on its way to Torquay! British gypsum sending a full pallet down to RGB for myself and other spreads to trial, you really can't say fairer than that (y) They rang me earlier to say it's on its way and I've also already had contact from one of the demonstrators to advise. I'm looking forward to trying it out :birra:
 
flynnyman said:
I have taped the area off for you, I was on scene at five this morning so there is no cross contamination :) but hurry up and get down here I've noticed @Vincey floating about with some multie ;)
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Well I was picked up by bg operatives this morning blind folded hand cuffed told to keep quiet the ops were Vince n rwf I knew it was him there by the sponges in the back
on any more work I've been ordered to only use plazi flex sponges and every speedskim going
 
flynnyman said:
He was telling lies again :)
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No he is not , roughly pre Christmas time 2013 if I recollect correctly until release somewhere mid 2014 and from then onwards including last week before plane journey, fair enough that is only 3 years using it but is the truth obviously doesn't compare to anything like @gps or @Orangemachineman 20 years of using French exterior agent .. or is that a lie ?
 
malc said:
i would not skim fan pattern artex, either pva and a tight coat of bonding then muti. or better still overboard.
i have seen plaster shrink back and you can see small areas of the fan pattern through the skim.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

100% correct.

When you Pva artex it goes soft (emulsifies)
When you bond it , letting the Pva/artex stiffen up again, the bonding dries and hardens on the now stable Pva. Then skim
 
This is all rubbish,when did plasterers start falling out about different materials and when to use them,so fecking what,there are much more important things in most people's lives.
I remember using plasters such as metal lath plaster and before magnetic there was a lead based plaster used in squash courts or X-ray areas,same colour as magnetic.I have used UNI as a free sample but was put off by the price so just used multi or thistle since.if it works for you well done but a lot of these things do slowly disappear,like old plasterers!!!!
 
Vincey said:
No he is not , roughly pre Christmas time 2013 if I recollect correctly until release somewhere mid 2014 and from then onwards including last week before plane journey, fair enough that is only 3 years using it but is the truth obviously doesn't compare to anything like @gps or @Orangemachineman 20 years of using French exterior agent .. or is that a lie ?
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So did they trial 2500 bags with anyone else or was you the only guy testing it?
 
Mixup twice go home said:
This is all rubbish,when did plasterers start falling out about different materials and when to use them,so fecking what,there are much more important things in most people's lives.
I remember using plasters such as metal lath plaster and before magnetic there was a lead based plaster used in squash courts or X-ray areas,same colour as magnetic.I have used UNI as a free sample but was put off by the price so just used multi or thistle since.if it works for you well done but a lot of these things do slowly disappear,like old plasterers!!!!
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Sadly there is not more important things :)
 
Vincey said:
No he is not , roughly pre Christmas time 2013 if I recollect correctly until release somewhere mid 2014 and from then onwards including last week before plane journey, fair enough that is only 3 years using it but is the truth obviously doesn't compare to anything like @gps or @Orangemachineman 20 years of using French exterior agent .. or is that a lie ?
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No it's not a lie, you have that market well and truly sewn up.
 
A bloke skimmed a ceiling or two using a proprietary product available to him and recommended by others and advertising. It failed in (as far as I know) in one area.
The manufacturers have been informed. The client and the plasterer responsible must come to an amicable resolution to the situation. The manufacturer must stand by the product, and be a part of the resolution.
 
Vincey said:
In any of my post of using and testing I always gave as much info as possible, testing in my area was over around 10-12 months pre release since then used over 2500 bags (stopped counting tbh) in testing period every surface I had was used on all my own jobs, also had jobs to use on choice by Bg, to best of my knowledge this was carried out over all parts of the u.k with other spreads. All my testing period jobs were either recorded by myself and reported back to them or by themselves , in terms of any failure on adhesion I not had one and still not to this day which is why I do have confidence in it, also the knowledge that if I ever did or was in the future that Bg would and will look into any if there ever was or is.
Which can't be said for any of the other bonding agents makers mentioned in this thread.
Do hope @hstoke gets this job resolved with them and tbh was very surprised to see it, in all the time on forum since release of mark 2 think I only ever seen 2 that have come away from the surface being used on and would always contact them if it ever happened.
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Very interesting, so since mark 2 you have seen it come away twice now this is a third ?
 
hstoke said:
Well I was picked up by bg operatives this morning blind folded hand cuffed told to keep quiet the ops were Vince n rwf I knew it was him there by the sponges in the back
on any more work I've been ordered to only use plazi flex sponges and every speedskim going
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Did you ask him the time?
 
gps said:
Very interesting, so since mark 2 you have seen it come away twice now this is a third ?
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Last rant before I go swimming pool seeing as you and half whit are still battling for a freak out, 2 posts on here seen is what I meant, hstoke one and another about 6 months ago that he should of contacted bg about ( I can remember it so I'm sure Flynny has it mark in his special post selection somewhere) and 2500 bags was in total since first used till now (which you both knew anyway) @mixuptwice is right what a stupid thing arguing about bags of plaster when to me main point is @hstoke gets this resolved which is what matters
Catch you tomorrow
 
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