The gym and plastering

Dropsalot said:
Another swift 15k on the static bike last night...........then a quick go around all the cable machines........a full body blow out.........sauna, then home for a meal.......
I’ve been going to the gym three times a week for a while now. Upshot...feel better, fitter, wheigh a little less but eat more! deadlifts help the back everything else helps everything else.

For killer weight exercises for arms, do a reclined dumbbell press.....start with a heavy but manageable weight....do as many reps as poss ( let’s say 6)....immediately drop a little weight and go again for double the reps (12)....drop a little more weight....double the reps again!...if you can, drop a little more and.....well you get the picture... try this system for any excersise you like.
It burns!
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Love drop sets. You always seem to be on low weight blowing out ye ass when a bird walks in lol
 
John j said:
Love drop sets. You always seem to be on low weight blowing out ye ass when a bird walks in lol
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Hahaha......yup.....red faced and straining to move with a tiny weight in your hand.........
I try it the other way about sometimes, gaining weight and go to failure......
Squats like that are brutal.
 
John j said:
Love drop sets. You always seem to be on low weight blowing out ye ass when a bird walks in lol
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Drop sets, yes. Or for a bit of variety on he same tack, if the gym is quiet, try supersets is advice from the biggest bloke I know.

Two pieces of equipment that target very similar muscles, say, seated row and pull ups, or tricep pulls downs and dips. Lighten the pull down to a weight that you can do 12 after the dips and move from one to the other without any rest. Rest after the full 24 reps. When you flag on the 4th set, lighten the load rather than losing reps or slowing down, the idea being to stabilise your work rate for every session.

Feel the burn the next day.
 
Stevieo said:
Drop sets, yes. Or for a bit of variety on he same tack, if the gym is quiet, try supersets is advice from the biggest bloke I know.

Two pieces of equipment that target very similar muscles, say, seated row and pull ups, or tricep pulls downs and dips. Lighten the pull down to a weight that you can do 12 after the dips and move from one to the other without any rest. Rest after the full 24 reps. When you flag on the 4th set, lighten the load rather than losing reps or slowing down, the idea being to stabilise your work rate for every session.

Feel the burn the next day.
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Pull ups are hardest thing in a gym
 
Rossi46 said:
Muscle ups even harder!
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I tried for ages to try and master the muscle up, I used to be able to do 22chin ups was my record but I was ten stone then, I’m nearly thirteen stone now and pound for pound weaker than what I used to be. Can’t get anywhere near high enough for a muscle up at the moment.
 
Cornelius said:
I tried for ages to try and master the muscle up, I used to be able to do 22chin ups was my record but I was ten stone then, I’m nearly thirteen stone now and pound for pound weaker than what I used to be. Can’t get anywhere near high enough for a muscle up at the moment.
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Gotta be super light and super strong for any of that.

Bodyweight exercise will soon show up your power to weight ratio which is, at the end of the day, pretty much the definition of fitness.

 
Stevieo said:
Drop sets, yes. Or for a bit of variety on he same tack, if the gym is quiet, try supersets is advice from the biggest bloke I know.

Two pieces of equipment that target very similar muscles, say, seated row and pull ups, or tricep pulls downs and dips. Lighten the pull down to a weight that you can do 12 after the dips and move from one to the other without any rest. Rest after the full 24 reps. When you flag on the 4th set, lighten the load rather than losing reps or slowing down, the idea being to stabilise your work rate for every session.

Feel the burn the next day.
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Supersets are more effective if you work opposing muscles for instance pull ups twinned with shoulder press, bench press then seated rows, curls to tri extensions. Iv done the gym for years and years even cut down to 5% body fat at one point to do some fitness modelling
 
Tinytom said:
Supersets are more effective if you work opposing muscles for instance pull ups twinned with shoulder press, bench press then seated rows, curls to tri extensions. Iv done the gym for years and years even cut down to 5% body fat at one point to do some fitness modelling
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5%!!! :sorprendido3: Ripped!!!!
 
Stevieo said:
Gotta be super light and super strong for any of that.

Bodyweight exercise will soon show up your power to weight ratio which is, at the end of the day, pretty much the definition of fitness.

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Biggest guys in the gym that bench the biggest weights, you never see them doing chin ups, strength and fitness is two completely different things. A big lad I know who is a monster in the gym I’m pretty sure he will be dead within ten years, he lives on steroids and McDonald’s. Strong though!lol
 
Rossi46 said:
A lot of gym work is moving away from heavy lifting of weights and like you say @Stevieo it’s more body weight (callisthenics)
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I have a problem with lifters describing what they do as 'fitness' because it just fcuking isn't and I have plenty stories to back it up.

The competition lifter who couldn't co-ordinate his muscles to hop on to a flat roof using the window as a boost, meaning that on that day, he couldn't do his job as a crane banksman, so I had to do it for him. He was supposed to be an (Canadian) infantryman but he couldn't run either.
I very much doubt that he could have got up a rope either, because he was so damned heavy.

The big lads who are 'cutting'. See 'em occasionally when they come in to the circuit training that I do. They pick up the 3kg weight that's recommended for some exercises, pooh pooh it and go get a 5kg out the weight room. Then find that it's not so light after all. Then find that they can't use the 3kg weight either because they're fooked and the girls easily put them to shame.

Speed work won't make you look good. Sweating won't make you thin.

Lifting and eating salad doesn't work.

Big won't make you fit. Big won't even necessarily make you particularly strong. It's an unbelievably fine balance once you get beyond the basics of 'getting a bit fitter'. Especially as you get beyond about 25.

Bodies are big and heavy and you need a lot of grunt to shift them, whether it's muscle ups, climbing 30m of rope or a cliff or running.

See how many people can do this -
 
I go to the gym coz I’m a recent grandad, and I want to be able.......just that.....able.

My goal is to be able to do at least one hour hard cardio, either bike or row (upwards of 26 strokes per min), and to be able to do strict pull-ups ( hard for me as I’m fat and got a shagged shoulder).....every visit I get a little nearer.
 
Tinytom said:
Supersets are more effective if you work opposing muscles for instance pull ups twinned with shoulder press, bench press then seated rows, curls to tri extensions. Iv done the gym for years and years even cut down to 5% body fat at one point to do some fitness modelling
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I think that's something we could discuss all day. -In fact, there's a hundred lifting channels that do just that - I'm not denying the validity of your experience because I'm still basically talking about a drop set, really. If you're doing the supersets that you describe for bodybuilder amounts of reps, then I'm not gonna argue with that. :)
 
Stevieo said:
I think that's something we could discuss all day. -In fact, there's a hundred lifting channels that do just that - I'm not denying the validity of your experience because I'm still basically talking about a drop set, really. If you're doing the supersets that you describe for bodybuilder amounts of reps, then I'm not gonna argue with that. :)
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Drop sets are a b*****d. Been a while but they burnt me out. Lol
 
Add - @Tinytom - seems to me that what you suggested doesn't work well with a 3 day split. (Push day, pull day, legs) But might well with full body two or three times a week. Which is what I mean about discussing it all day.
 
Stevieo said:
I have a problem with lifters describing what they do as 'fitness' because it just fcuking isn't and I have plenty stories to back it up.

The competition lifter who couldn't co-ordinate his muscles to hop on to a flat roof using the window as a boost, meaning that on that day, he couldn't do his job as a crane banksman, so I had to do it for him. He was supposed to be an (Canadian) infantryman but he couldn't run either.
I very much doubt that he could have got up a rope either, because he was so damned heavy.

The big lads who are 'cutting'. See 'em occasionally when they come in to the circuit training that I do. They pick up the 3kg weight that's recommended for some exercises, pooh pooh it and go get a 5kg out the weight room. Then find that it's not so light after all. Then find that they can't use the 3kg weight either because they're fooked and the girls easily put them to shame.

Speed work won't make you look good. Sweating won't make you thin.

Lifting and eating salad doesn't work.

Big won't make you fit. Big won't even necessarily make you particularly strong. It's an unbelievably fine balance once you get beyond the basics of 'getting a bit fitter'. Especially as you get beyond about 25.

Bodies are big and heavy and you need a lot of grunt to shift them, whether it's muscle ups, climbing 30m of rope or a cliff or running.

See how many people can do this -
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I.d defo do that ..... both to be fair
 
I like to get my muscle groups done and other days c.v . Don' do me legs class bike as leg day.
What's everyones goals at min . I let me sen go from 2015 . So want to get back to 13. 7 st . I.m 15 3 at moment. Want to.be there for march. Need to.be fit enough for Jacobs ladder which we planned on biking over in June/July
 
Stevieo said:
Add - @Tinytom - seems to me that what you suggested doesn't work well with a 3 day split. (Push day, pull day, legs) But might well with full body two or three times a week. Which is what I mean about discussing it all day.
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I’m not saying the exercises you said don’t work, far from it they are ideal for the end of a set to totally burn out the muscle or do them with light weights and pump the muscle full of nutrient rich blood to aid your recovery times.
There are no hard rules for weight training what works for one person works better for someone else and worse for someone else it’s all down to the way your body responds.
I like to keep it simple, chest and tris, back and bis, shoulders and abs, legs. The exercises I do change every 6 weeks, but it’s usually 3 sets of 6-10 reps then a set of 20 reps to pump the muscle it works for me
 
John j said:
I like to get my muscle groups done and other days c.v . Don' do me legs class bike as leg day.
What's everyones goals at min . I let me sen go from 2015 . So want to get back to 13. 7 st . I.m 15 3 at moment. Want to.be there for march. Need to.be fit enough for Jacobs ladder which we planned on biking over in June/July
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If you want to be fit enough for Jacobs ladder then just get out in your bike mate and put the miles in (y)
 
Tinytom said:
I’m not saying the exercises you said don’t work, far from it they are ideal for the end of a set to totally burn out the muscle or do them with light weights and pump the muscle full of nutrient rich blood to aid your recovery times.
There are no hard rules for weight training what works for one person works better for someone else and worse for someone else it’s all down to the way your body responds.
I like to keep it simple, chest and tris, back and bis, shoulders and abs, legs. The exercises I do change every 6 weeks, but it’s usually 3 sets of 6-10 reps then a set of 20 reps to pump the muscle it works for me
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I think really, if you have enough reps with enough weight, get enough rest and eat enough, then what it boils down to is persistence.

Doesn't help, the amount of people who pedal what should be a lot of transparent shite all over the internet. For starters, a lot of these 'experts' are roiders but won't admit it. (Mike Chang)

That Thomas DeLauer with his intermittent fasting and the secrets he wants to sell you. He even shows you his before and after pics. Very impressive, but the guy was farrkin huge under all that fat and then he got ripped. The idea that drinking his magic juice and buying his diet is gonna make you look like him is just silly. Unless you look like he does on the left just now to start with.

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Shaun T is another t**t that wants jailing. He knows that he can patent a workout but not a diet, so he sends you a starvation plan, some magic juice and a workout CD. He then pretends that his magic workout has done something that circuit training won't. The really clever bit though, is asking people for before and after photos. He very carefully selects the people who had some muscle to start with which now shows and hey presto. Put them on line and make a fortune.
 
Rossi46 said:
If you want to be fit enough for Jacobs ladder then just get out in your bike mate and put the miles in (y)
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I do mate . Can do the distance but it different ball game when your climbing then trails . Can do 15 miles enduro at min in bout 1 hour 40 . Jacobs is a lot tougher then were we go and is 22 miles ......if we don' get lost lol
 
John j said:
I do mate . Can do the distance but it different ball game when your climbing then trails . Can do 15 miles enduro at min in bout 1 hour 40 . Jacobs is a lot tougher then were we go and is 22 miles ......if we don' get lost lol
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I did the IOM end to end last year for the first time. Bloody tough ride that! Reckon I’ll do it again this year but on a hardtail though. Got round on the enduro but I could have made it easier :loco:
 
Rossi46 said:
I did the IOM end to end last year for the first time. Bloody tough ride that! Reckon I’ll do it again this year but on a hardtail though. Got round on the enduro but I could have made it easier :loco:
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What’s iom. Just sold my Ht for full sus . Not sure if it was best idea
 
Just done 30 mins on tread mill. In my new performance trainers bought on advice of fat bird in shop when I asked for running trainers. Anyone gonna explain difference and dont say you wear em in bed
 
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John j said:
Just done 30 mins on tread mill. In my new performance trainers bout on advice of fat bird in shop when I asked for running trainers. Anyone gonna explain difference and dont say you wear em in bed
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There isn't much. Trainers are way overpriced and over engineered.

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@Tinytom - remember these? Seems they're still using them after more than 20 year. It's a £30 trainer and good for fellas who have to run as part of their job. If it fits your foot and doesn't have a shitty plastic sole, you're good to go unless you're an olympic athlete who A/ lives in them and B/ has to make 1/100th sec count.
 
These were 80 reduced to 45 . They seem like there's alot more some under heel rather the toes . I know most have but these seem more to shape your foot .
Though me thighs were hurting for soon reason
 
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