Sponges, spats,plazis and speed skims

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Used my eze spat on some S&C floating and well chuffed with it! Alot better than the straight edges I have. Can't wait to try it on a ceiling but bit nervous incase I fcuk it up.
 
Well, I'm old school, but try anything if it's make process, quality product better.I have tried towels,speed skims etc,,
Looking at spats now, but for a one man band is all these gadgets really a rocket forward.
I ain't convinced.
My mt has coped with evertything all over 30 years.!;)
 
Donzo said:
Well, I'm old school, but try anything if it's make process, quality product better.I have tried towels,speed skims etc,,
Looking at spats now, but for a one man band is all these gadgets really a rocket forward.
I ain't convinced.
My mt has coped with evertything all over 30 years.!;)
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My mt is used for cleaning these new gadgets !!!
Jump in the deep end ...again !!
 
roryston said:
I've tried 2 things that I thought were worth trying to see if they give me a advantage

Sponge float, messy, rough, didn't really help in any situation in my opinion if you cant keep up with it dont lay it on.

And R plaziflex.

I swore by this for about 12 months, thought it was amazing.

I would lay on with my steel and flatten and finish with then plastic and thought it finished lovley, seemed to be effortless.

Then I done 3 renovations In a row each one needing more and more work on the skim to achieve a decent finish, with my relaxed (lazyer) approach from using the plastic trowel the final finish was getting worse and worse, it looked good but bumpy when painted.

I went through 6 plastic blades, always snagging them and sanding them blah blah blah.

On the 3rd house I used my trusty old Marshalltown start to finish and everything was perfect all the sets felt more manageable and the edges were square as hell.(the plastics had a tendency to mould to whatever shape it wanted to).


My conclusion you cant beat a steel trowel all these new things seem amazing at first but in the long run your steel will look after you.

I couldn't comment on speedskim as I've never used it.

That's my 2 pence anyway.
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The s*p*r*lex kinder does everything the plastic does but better... although the last 4m2 I did I used the nela plastic and that came out really well....

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Donzo said:
Well, I'm old school, but try anything if it's make process, quality product better.I have tried towels,speed skims etc,,
Looking at spats now, but for a one man band is all these gadgets really a rocket forward.
I ain't convinced.
My mt has coped with evertything all over 30 years.!;)
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I think the speedskim and spats certainly do make the job easier

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Used the speedskim for the first time today and am impressed.
Have been a sceptic for a long time but bit the bullet and got a 600 and 1200. More time between rubs is good☺
 
jcrplast said:
So are you saying youre set goes off quicker by flattning with speedskim sooner?. The basic setting time hasnt changed.
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No it hasn't, but by using the speedskim to flatten you have more time to do other things like drink tea


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BigK said:
No it hasn't, but by using the speedskim to flatten you have more time to do other things like drink tea


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Used mine for the 2nd time today, f**k**g love it. Nearly fell asleep in the van waiting to trowel up though.
 
BigK said:
No it hasn't, but by using the speedskim to flatten you have more time to do other things like drink tea


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Sponges, spats,plazis and speed skims
 
Never read so much bullshit.Plastering is quite a simple but skilful trade.Skimming is very simple you spread it on FLAT then you give it a second coat FLAT.Then you trowel it up.Simple really.The only things over the years that have made this job easier are 1:Stick on scrim 2:Electric drills.And yes I have tried speedskim etc and although they flatten walls in my case I don't need to as I put it on FLAT in the first place.Rant over happy easter it's cider time.
 
mashman said:
Never read so much bullshit.Plastering is quite a simple but skilful trade.Skimming is very simple you spread it on FLAT then you give it a second coat FLAT.Then you trowel it up.Simple really.The only things over the years that have made this job easier are 1:Stick on scrim 2:Electric drills.And yes I have tried speedskim etc and although they flatten walls in my case I don't need to as I put it on FLAT in the first place.Rant over happy easter it's cider time.
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How many times do you trowel it.
 
theclemo said:
How many times do you trowel it.
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Twice and a Polish if it needs a Polish. Been doing it 40 years so don't need to be told I'm doing it wrong and the speedskim enables you to do it with 1/2 a trowel because it's brilliant. Like I said if you do it flat in the first place you won't go far wrong
 
mashman said:
Twice and a Polish if it needs a Polish. Been doing it 40 years so don't need to be told I'm doing it wrong and the speedskim enables you to do it with 1/2 a trowel because it's brilliant. Like I said if you do it flat in the first place you won't go far wrong
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I was taken the piss mate I totally agree with you.
 
theclemo said:
I was taken the piss mate I totally agree with you.
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It just makes me laugh all these young pups wasting money on something that probably helps them but is totally unnecessary if they were taught properly in the first place. scrim and mixers are the only improvements that have been beneficial over the years and I was using machines in Germany in the early 80's so they're not that new either
 
mashman said:
It just makes me laugh all these young pups wasting money on something that probably helps them but is totally unnecessary if they were taught properly in the first place. scrim and mixers are the only improvements that have been beneficial over the years and I was using machines in Germany in the early 80's so they're not that new either
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I do like the speedskim and the eze spat. As I find i can go for a longer tea break plus it's less time on the stilts. But I wouldn't be lost without them.
 
mashman said:
It just makes me laugh all these young pups wasting money on something that probably helps them but is totally unnecessary if they were taught properly in the first place. scrim and mixers are the only improvements that have been beneficial over the years and I was using machines in Germany in the early 80's so they're not that new either
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Do you use a machine now ?
 
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